Next years QB

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CRedskinsRule
04-27-2015, 05:26 PM
That assumes you want Mariota, and I am at best agnostic about that (although I will go along with what Scot wants). I am not sure how they could have determined the dynamics for draft day to the degree needed to make the timing of the decision sensible. I a report recently that idnciated that one of the NFL draft day mega-trades (I confess I don't recall which one) wasn't even proposed until the team that initiated it was 7 minutes on the clock. I don't think it is possible to determine with any real accuracy what teams will do under the kind of pressure they feel on draft day.

Again, I agree with you the timing doesn't make sense. I was giving scenarios that might be true to make it make sense.

MTK
04-27-2015, 06:01 PM
What I don't understand is the timing of this. Haven't we just significantly affected our ability to trade the #5 pick if a team is interested in trading up to get Mariota? Teams won't believe we might otherwise take him (despite our protests that it doesn't change our draft strategy), and thus if that is the motivation for someone to move up to #5, didn't we just remove that incentive? As we didn't need to make a decision on RGIII until May 3 (I believe), this doesn't make sense to me.

To be clear, I have no problem with it assuming we weren't targeting a QB with that pick anyway. But it just seems premature to have done this now.

It's all about what the Jets want to do at #6 that would entice teams to possibly trade up.

calia
04-27-2015, 06:09 PM
It's all about what the Jets want to do at #6 that would entice teams to possibly trade up.

That's true in the sense that if we don't take Mariota (and today's news is likely to make folks think we will pass), teams that want him will want to trade with someone above 6 in order to get him, as the Jets seem likely to do grab him at 6. My point is that this move arguably makes the Redskins less of an attractive trading partner than teams picking above us if the objective is to land Mariota. Before this news, we were probably a very attractive trading partner at 5 because the Jets would likely snag him at 6. But now, someone else gets that privilege (although, I will allow, at greater cost to the team trading up, as the higher the pick, the more you have to give up for it).

MTK
04-27-2015, 06:17 PM
I'm not sure today's news changes things a whole lot. It's not a long term commitment and it's guaranteed for injury only. It's window dressing more than anything. In the end it just gives the team more control.

calia
04-27-2015, 06:23 PM
I'm not sure today's news changes things a whole lot. It's not a long term commitment and it's guaranteed for injury only. It's window dressing more than anything. In the end it just gives the team more control.

I don't disagree -- my issue is only one of timing. Had we done this next Monday, we'd have the same control re: RGIII. We arguably have a little less now with regard to draft strategy, and I just cannot see a reason why this was done now.

MTK
04-27-2015, 06:33 PM
I don't disagree -- my issue is only one of timing. Had we done this next Monday, we'd have the same control re: RGIII. We arguably have a little less now with regard to draft strategy, and I just cannot see a reason why this was done now.

Everyone knows if the Titans don't take him, he's definitely going to be there at #5. The Jags aren't taking him and neither are the Raiders. #5 is when things will start to get interesting regardless of the news today. And I don't think picking up the option is big news to teams around the league. Pretty sure it was expected.

HailGreen28
04-27-2015, 06:39 PM
It's all about what the Jets want to do at #6 that would entice teams to possibly trade up.Yes! If we might take Mariota, other teams wouldn't try to trade with us, they would try to leap-frog us with the #4 or higher pick.

Picking up Griffin's option improves the chance someone might trade with us, if Mariota is there.

NC_Skins
04-27-2015, 07:00 PM
Does anybody up here really believe that Robert is going to be the starter come week 1?


This is how this is going to play out. Kirk is going to win the job in training camp and be the day 1 starter. If Kirk repeats that shit from last year, he's going to be yanked and Robert is going to be allowed his shot at being the starter.

skinsfan69
04-27-2015, 08:05 PM
Does anybody up here really believe that Robert is going to be the starter come week 1?


This is how this is going to play out. Kirk is going to win the job in training camp and be the day 1 starter. If Kirk repeats that shit from last year, he's going to be yanked and Robert is going to be allowed his shot at being the starter.

I don't think Griffin can start 16 games. He just has too long a ways to go to be a complete QB. That's not to say KC or Colt are 16 game starters either, just seems like KC has a shorter ways to go. But my guess is Griffin starts off the number one but won't keep the job. i just hope this be about performance and not about the politics that surrounds Griffin.

NC_Skins
04-27-2015, 08:23 PM
Looks like Haslett doesn't think much of Robert...lol


Jim Haslett answers if Redskins should take Marcus Mariota | Comcast SportsNet Washington (http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/jim-haslett-answers-if-redskins-should-take-marcus-mariota?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo)

"If I'm making the call, I would take him," Haslett said to Comcast SportsNet's Chick Hernandez.

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