By Popular Demand. Should the Skins FIRE Jay Gruden? Thread

Because Gruden doesn't have the power to hire his defensive coordinator. Bruce Allen does all the hiring and firing. He may have Gruden involved in the interview process, but Allen ultimately decides who he wants in there coaching. That is all on Bruce Allen, NOT on Jay Gruden.

That's not accurate. Jay selected Manusky.

We suck on 3rd and 4th downs, we suck in the redzone, and we suck at the end of halfs and games. Those are all very critical to winning games. 4 years is no small sample size. Gruden just isn't getting it done. And on top of it, his answers to questions are mind blowing. Teams reflect the personality of their coach. Gruden literally admitted to quitting during the game. Eff that. No wonder we keep getting smoked. We need a no non-sense hard nosed coach. We've needed that for a long time. I'd rather actually hire a defensive coach to be HC. We keep hiring offensive guys.

We suck on 3rd and 4th downs, we suck in the redzone, and we suck at the end of halfs and games. Those are all very critical to winning games. 4 years is no small sample size. Gruden just isn't getting it done. And on top of it, his answers to questions are mind blowing. Teams reflect the personality of their coach. Gruden literally admitted to quitting during the game. Eff that. No wonder we keep getting smoked. We need a no non-sense hard nosed coach. We've needed that for a long time. I'd rather actually hire a defensive coach to be HC. We keep hiring offensive guys.

The whole O/S

*McVay leaving
* Scot fired
* PG/Djax Leaving
* KC contract
* Cravens AWOL

All have damaged this team and then on top of that you throw in a horrible roster of wr's, injuries mount up, NEW DEFENSE that still sucks..

All of that is hard to get over, and when your HC is already having issues in critical moments of games , non of that helps.

Another stat I saw the other day was the skins are the worst team in the league under 2mins on BOTH sides of the ball.

We give up the most and score the least in 2min situations, that is not acceptable, and yes that is on coaching.

The whole O/S

*McVay leaving
* Scot fired
* PG/Djax Leaving
* KC contract
* Cravens AWOL

All have damaged this team and then on top of that you throw in a horrible roster of wr's, injuries mount up, NEW DEFENSE that still sucks..

All of that is hard to get over, and when your HC is already having issues in critical moments of games , non of that helps.

Another stat I saw the other day was the skins are the worst team in the league under 2mins on BOTH sides of the ball.

We give up the most and score the least in 2min situations, that is not acceptable, and yes that is on coaching.

That's a very damning stat and not very surprising. Hard to win games if you're last in that stat. Basically means you have a very low chance of winning close games. So unless you can blowout every team you're screwing yourself.

The whole O/S

*McVay leaving
* Scot fired
* PG/Djax Leaving
* KC contract
* Cravens AWOL

All have damaged this team and then on top of that you throw in a horrible roster of wr's, injuries mount up, NEW DEFENSE that still sucks..

All of that is hard to get over, and when your HC is already having issues in critical moments of games , non of that helps.

Another stat I saw the other day was the skins are the worst team in the league under 2mins on BOTH sides of the ball.

We give up the most and score the least in 2min situations, that is not acceptable, and yes that is on coaching.

This is what bugs the shit out of me. It's like when the game is on the line these coaches piss and shit all over themselves like a 2 year old.

Gruden is to blame cause he keeps hiring Joe Barry and now Manusky. Swearinger said they didn't even practice for 2 min hurry up.

Look what McVay did w/ his defense? Goes out and hires the best guy cause he knows that's going to help him win.

I want a house cleaning!!! Including Mr. Coors Light.

I've never heard an NFL coach say they can't get a half a yard cause his QB's legs weren't bigger than Andy Dalton's. Da fuck??

I've never heard an NFL coach say they can't get a half a yard cause his QB's legs weren't bigger than Andy Dalton's. Da fuck??

That's # 1 on Jay Grudens Dumbfuckery Comment List.

This is what bugs the shit out of me. It's like when the game is on the line these coaches piss and shit all over themselves like a 2 year old.

Gruden is to blame cause he keeps hiring Joe Barry and now Manusky. Swearinger said they didn't even practice for 2 min hurry up.

Look what McVay did w/ his defense? Goes out and hires the best guy cause he knows that's going to help him win.

I want a house cleaning!!! Including Mr. Coors Light.Jay had the chance to hire Phillips two years ago, and hired his friend Joe Barry instead. McVay is a more mature leader at 31 than Gruden will ever be.

Well it seems like the talk now amongst the media / gossipers, etc. say that Jay has to win out to have a good chance at coming back next season.

Me personally i think that he has to go at least 7-9 because of the injuries / various issues.

Although if we go 5-11 and suffer huge blowout losses, then he probably doesn't come back.

The more and more I think about it, I am not sure if firing Jay right now / at the end of the year is the best option. Maybe we give him one more year with a healthy team?

Bomani Jones was saying he's already heard Jay is a goner but then he had to crush Dan and the organization like all talking heads do

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