What’s your plan for the Quarterback position?

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Chico23231
04-02-2019, 10:38 AM
how come no one in this organization, that makes the player decisions, values the QB position? this has been a QB driven league for quite some time. but yet the skins, year after year, fail to understand that

I don't think its a question of not valuing the QB position, but simply not having a coherent strategy in place to building the roster appropriately at that position.

Most of the decisions show no plan and end up as knee jerk and simply unacceptable and foolish.

1 The trade to move up for RG3...its laughable we gave up that much, NOBODY has given what we did to move up. Desperate and franchise-setting back.
2 The McNabb trade, knee-jerk for a washed up QB. We clearly gave up too much. McNabb was probably gonna be cut.
3. Handling of Cousins. Refused to seriously give Cousins a long term contract. Could have given him a deal... I believe the counter was 19 mil per? Should have traded him after the first Franchise tag and would have re-couped a hefty sum. We end up getting peanuts.
4. Never have drafted a serious young QB on the roster since...Jay's guy "Colt" took a rooster spot that could have been given to a capable young arm.
5. Alex...got burnt again by Reid. Knee jerk as fuck...inexplicably included an extremely talented young CB. On top of a trade, gave a long term deal to a 33 year old which again hand cuffs the team in cap with getting better. End up with DRC and Erick Flowers of the world.

There is no way in the world Bruce should have a fucking job. none
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BigHairedAristocrat
04-02-2019, 10:39 AM
Chris Mortenson on Sirius XM " The Redskins are very much so alive in the Rosen race, should the @AZCardinals select Kyler Murray."

I don't buy the Pats being a contender for Rosen, or Miami. I really think it's us and the Giants

Agreed. Trading for Rosen doesn't make sense for them unless Brady has communicated to them that this is his final year. Since all his public comments indicate otherwise, I don't think that likely.

skinsfaninok
04-02-2019, 10:42 AM
Agreed. Trading for Rosen doesn't make sense for them unless Brady has communicated to them that this is his final year. Since all his public comments indicate otherwise, I don't think that likely.

Yeah and Miami is tanking for picks and a top QB next yr, so really it's 2 teams. If the Giants offer a first they can have him

Ruhskins
04-02-2019, 10:48 AM
Agreed. Trading for Rosen doesn't make sense for them unless Brady has communicated to them that this is his final year. Since all his public comments indicate otherwise, I don't think that likely.

Brady is the reason why Jimmy G. is in San Francisco. Unless there is a power shift in New England, the Pats are not going to be drafting Brady's heir apparent that high or any time soon.

I find it a bit funny that I feel that both the Pats and Giants are in similar situations in terms of having a veteran QB that is somehow stopping them from acquiring their QB of the future, except for, of course, the fact that the Pats just keep winning.

BigHairedAristocrat
04-02-2019, 10:50 AM
Yeah and Miami is tanking for picks and a top QB next yr, so really it's 2 teams. If the Giants offer a first they can have him

It depends on whether we are dead set on getting our QB of the future this year or if we are fine rolling with Keenum and McCoy this year and getting our future QB next year (my preferred option). If they are dead set on it, then i would much rather them trade our first for Rosen than use that pick on any of the guys in this years draft. I'm obviously not an expert, but those that are experts and who don't have agendas (like everyone who works for ESPN, NFL network, etc.), generally seem to think this draft class doesn't have any QBs with elite potential. Just serviceable starters and career backups. Rosen is more likely to be a star than any of them.

skinsfaninok
04-02-2019, 10:52 AM
It depends on whether we are dead set on getting our QB of the future this year or if we are fine rolling with Keenum and McCoy this year and getting our future QB next year (my preferred option). If they are dead set on it, then i would much rather them trade our first for Rosen than use that pick on any of the guys in this years draft. I'm obviously not an expert, but those that are experts and who don't have agendas (like everyone who works for ESPN, NFL network, etc.), generally seem to think this draft class doesn't have any QBs with elite potential. Just serviceable starters and career backups. Rosen is more likely to be a star than any of them.

I wouldn't be mad if we gave up 15 for Rosen but I'd love to do a 15 for Him and one of their later picks like a 4th or 5th. As for the Elite QB stuff, it's so hard to predict, even those guys on talk shows are throwing guesses out there. Remember a ton of folks thought RG3 was the next game changer..

Ruhskins
04-02-2019, 11:07 AM
I don't think its a question of not valuing the QB position, but simply not having a coherent strategy in place to building the roster appropriately at that position.

Most of the decisions show no plan and end up as knee jerk and simply unacceptable and foolish.

1 The trade to move up for RG3...its laughable we gave up that much, NOBODY has given what we did to move up. Desperate and franchise-setting back.
2 The McNabb trade, knee-jerk for a washed up QB. We clearly gave up too much. McNabb was probably gonna be cut.
3. Handling of Cousins. Refused to seriously give Cousins a long term contract. Could have given him a deal... I believe the counter was 19 mil per? Should have traded him after the first Franchise tag and would have re-couped a hefty sum. We end up getting peanuts.
4. Never have drafted a serious young QB on the roster since...Jay's guy "Colt" took a rooster spot that could have been given to a capable young arm.
5. Alex...got burnt again by Reid. Knee jerk as fuck...inexplicably included an extremely talented young CB. On top of a trade, gave a long term deal to a 33 year old which again hand cuffs the team in cap with getting better. End up with DRC and Erick Flowers of the world.

There is no way in the world Bruce should have a fucking job. none
3.

Your too obsessed with Alex Smith (maybe the way I'm obsessed about how Cousins was terrible for this franchise). Unless Andy Reid knew Alex was going to break his leg, the outcome of the Smith trade would have been very different. And it is a bit ridiculous to say that it was a bad trade because of an injury.

Had Alex stay healthy, the team would have likely ugly-win its way to a playoff berth (likely a 1 and done in the playoffs) and this offseason would be WAYYY different. And unless Fuller turns out to be the next Patrick Peterson, people need to get over that too.

I know we have terrible front office, but I just hate the way people shit on Alex Smith because he didn't come and throw a ton of yards (and picks) in a losing effort the way Cousins did. Alex brought in a ton of much needed leadership and the way the team fell apart when he went out shows that.

Yes, RG3 was a bad decision; so was McNabb, so was not drafting a young QB or not trading Cousins once they should have realized he didn't want to play here. And I would say the same of Alex if he had played the whole season and we have had the same outcome; but he didn't because he got hurt.

Chico23231
04-02-2019, 11:13 AM
Your too obsessed with Alex Smith (maybe the way I'm obsessed about how Cousins was terrible for this franchise). Unless Andy Reid knew Alex was going to break his leg, the outcome of the Smith trade would have been very different. And it is a bit ridiculous to say that it was a bad trade because of an injury.

Had Alex stay healthy, the team would have likely ugly-win its way to a playoff berth (likely a 1 and done in the playoffs) and this offseason would be WAYYY different. And unless Fuller turns out to be the next Patrick Peterson, people need to get over that too.

I know we have terrible front office, but I just hate the way people shit on Alex Smith because he didn't come and throw a ton of yards (and picks) in a losing effort the way Cousins did. Alex brought in a ton of much needed leadership and the way the team fell apart when he went out shows that.

Yes, RG3 was a bad decision; so was McNabb, so was not drafting a young QB or not trading Cousins once they should have realized he didn't want to play here. And I would say the same of Alex if he had played the whole season and we have had the same outcome; but he didn't because he got hurt.

Strongly disagree with trading young defensive talent for 33 year old QB. And the big contract on top...Bruce didn't have to do that, but he did.

I didn't even mention the performance or the injury...but since you did, his performance was seriously lacking. The injury was terrible, and I feel bad for Alex.

But facts are facts

Ruhskins
04-02-2019, 11:36 AM
Strongly disagree with trading young defensive talent for 33 year old QB. And the big contract on top...Bruce didn't have to do that, but he did.

I didn't even mention the performance or the injury...but since you did, his performance was seriously lacking. The injury was terrible, and I feel bad for Alex.

But facts are facts

So you are assuming that Alex would have come to the team without the contract we gave him? Is that a fact? Are you his agent?

I didn't like giving up Fuller either, so I give you that.

Smith wasn't lighting the world on fire, but it was his first season with the team and even without him lighting it up on offense the team was winning. The team could have had more ugly-wins had he stayed healthy or he could have stunk it up, but no one knows what could have happened.

Also, my issue with fans and Alex is that they always made excuses for Cousins and were willing to give him a pass when he played here. But they were expecting Alex to come in and win right away and not give him the same leeway Cousins was given.

Chico23231
04-02-2019, 12:38 PM
So you are assuming that Alex would have come to the team without the contract we gave him? Is that a fact? Are you his agent?

I didn't like giving up Fuller either, so I give you that.

Smith wasn't lighting the world on fire, but it was his first season with the team and even without him lighting it up on offense the team was winning. The team could have had more ugly-wins had he stayed healthy or he could have stunk it up, but no one knows what could have happened.

Also, my issue with fans and Alex is that they always made excuses for Cousins and were willing to give him a pass when he played here. But they were expecting Alex to come in and win right away and not give him the same leeway Cousins was given.

not trying to troll...but I gotta strong feeling Cousins balls this year

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