All I can say is if we DO bring in Rosen and Gruden can turn him around like McVay did with Goff, Gruden will have earned himself another couple years here.
A lot of Rosen's mistakes last year seemed mental but he definitely has the arm talent.
I could see him having a Goff like turnaround too.
Schneed10
04-05-2019, 10:45 AM
Yeah that makes no sense. He was thought by many to be the best QB in the draft last year. He had decent tape amidst an idiotically designed offense in Arizona. And he'll cost less than $2M per season for the next three years.
I have no idea why you wouldn't leap at the opportunity to trade a 2nd for him, if for no other reason that you just think Arizona has no leverage.
He's definitely worth a 2nd plus.
sevier2
04-05-2019, 11:10 AM
I could see him having a Goff like turnaround too.
Definitely. We all have our issues with Gruden but one thing he's done pretty well with is developing the QB position.
Add in Kevin O'Connell along with McCoy/Keenum as veteran leaders and its a pretty good situation if you're a young QB looking to take the next step.
Seems like a Win-Win for Rosen and the Skins.
Defensewins
04-05-2019, 11:36 AM
I'm sorry but I don't see getting last year's 10th overall pick for a 2nd round pick as dumb.
Might not be the greatest move ever. Maybe could be done for less. But it's a move that would make a ton of sense for us.
Rosen is the solution at QB that scares me the less with our current FO and HC.
I said desperate and dumb.
Can't you see the other teams were working together to strong arm the Cardinals to give him up for less? Why give up a 2nd when you can get him for a 3rd? But we go in and blow any leverage we had.
But I guess we are desperate, we have a pattern of over paying for Qb's and taking other teams Qb's that they have all but given up on. Now we just raised the price on ourselves because we think Rosen is a franchise Qb? I have seen enough of him in NCAA and NFL to know he is not.
skinsfaninok
04-05-2019, 11:49 AM
I said desperate and dumb.
Can't you see the other teams were working together to strong arm the Cardinals to give him up for less? Why give up a 2nd when you can get him for a 3rd? But we go in and blow any leverage we had.
But I guess we are desperate, we have a pattern of over paying for Qb's and taking other teams Qb's that they have all but given up on. Now we just raised the price on ourselves because we think Rosen is a franchise Qb? I have seen enough of him in NCAA and NFL to know he is not.
Other teams are interested but for a 3rd. The Skins want him and know a 2nd is what they have to deal.
Either u take a QB at 15 or 46 . Either way it's bound to happen
skinsfan69
04-05-2019, 02:35 PM
If there's a trade for Rosen then I'd say Colt's time here will come to an end. There's no way they'd keep Keenum and Colt. One would have to go.
los panda
04-05-2019, 02:54 PM
If there's a trade for Rosen then I'd say Colt's time here will come to an end. There's no way they'd keep Keenum and Colt. One would have to go.
What are their cap hits and dead cap penalties?
sevier2
04-05-2019, 03:08 PM
If there's a trade for Rosen then I'd say Colt's time here will come to an end. There's no way they'd keep Keenum and Colt. One would have to go.
Yeah but Colt is the only one who knows the Offense at this point. That gives him a strong advantage.
And with how things went last year at the QB spot Jay might want to consider carrying 3 instead of his usual 2.
FrenchSkin
04-05-2019, 03:09 PM
I said desperate and dumb.
Can't you see the other teams were working together to strong arm the Cardinals to give him up for less? Why give up a 2nd when you can get him for a 3rd? But we go in and blow any leverage we had.
But I guess we are desperate, we have a pattern of over paying for Qb's and taking other teams Qb's that they have all but given up on. Now we just raised the price on ourselves because we think Rosen is a franchise Qb? I have seen enough of him in NCAA and NFL to know he is not.
Until when are they going to work together? Only one team will get Rosen, if you want to be the one that gets him, you have to be the one offering the most.
If a 2nd is what it takes, I don't see it as being overpriced at all.
If everyone is offering a 3, eventually someone is going to up the ante if they want him bad enough. That's how a bidding process works.