Commanders 2025 Offseason Thread

The Over The Hill Gang v 2.0. Wouldn’t it be great to see these old guys beat up some young QBs in the league?


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JD definitely not as limber and graceful as Kilmer but….

the above part of this - i do not see him as a typical 30 yr old wr - im not sure who does - when comes to mileage and injury history. The way he takes care of himself and works? Nah man, i cant see a down slope. Father time might be undefeated but Terry is good competition IMO

I listened to that. He did bring up some good points. My issue is sure he's still playing well now. But I assume the team is looking at it from the back end of his deal. In year 3 and 4, or even next year, 2026, what will his production be then? Chances are it's going to dip. So they can be stuck paying him a truck load of money when he's got #2 or even #3 wr production. Terry has to realize that's just how the NFL works.

The Von Miller signing does nothing for me. Just nothing.

The Von Miller signing does nothing for me. Just nothing.

Would you give Connerly or Amos back for an edge rusher in those spots?

Because outside of that, Von Miller (or a similar veteran) is about the best they were going to be able to do. He will probably only play 15-20 snaps per game on 3rd downs. Not jacked up for the signing or anything, but I like it.

2024 PFF:

Overall Grade: 82.4
15th/211 Edge Rushers
32 pressures
6 sacks

He was only 91st in pass-rush snaps, but was 42nd in sacks (ESPN has him at 50th in total sacks). That's not bad production imo. Only Luvu had more sacks for us last year (outside of Fowler). No one else was in the top 50.

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/von-miller/6154#seasonStatsWidget

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/view/defense/table/defensive/sort/sacks/dir/desc

Note - Fowler only had a grade of 62.1 that was 100 out of 211. He also had 341 pass-rush snaps compared to 209 for Miller.

Trey Amos signed. I bet Terry signs soon.

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I listened to that. He did bring up some good points. My issue is sure he's still playing well now. But I assume the team is looking at it from the back end of his deal. In year 3 and 4, or even next year, 2026, what will his production be then? Chances are it's going to dip. So they can be stuck paying him a truck load of money when he's got #2 or even #3 wr production. Terry has to realize that's just how the NFL works.

I disagree on the dip in physical ability and football sense (production). Even if there is one? I picture it slight, not massive to be saying he didnt deserve the $. I just cant see it yet theres zero evidence thus far.

Trey Amos signed. I bet Terry signs soon.

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Famous Amos is going to be the corniest, and also awesome, knickname for that stud.

Would you give Connerly or Amos back for an edge rusher in those spots?

Because outside of that, Von Miller (or a similar veteran) is about the best they were going to be able to do. He will probably only play 15-20 snaps per game on 3rd downs. Not jacked up for the signing or anything, but I like it.

2024 PFF:

Overall Grade: 82.4
15th/211 Edge Rushers
32 pressures
6 sacks

He was only 91st in pass-rush snaps, but was 42nd in sacks (ESPN has him at 50th in total sacks). That's not bad production imo. Only Luvu had more sacks for us last year (outside of Fowler). No one else was in the top 50.

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/von-miller/6154#seasonStatsWidget

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/view/defense/table/defensive/sort/sacks/dir/desc

Note - Fowler only had a grade of 62.1 that was 100 out of 211. He also had 341 pass-rush snaps compared to 209 for Miller.


Nope. I felt like Peters should have made an effort to re-sign Fowler, but I guess they felt like he wasn't worth it. Miller is 36 years old. Ok the stats don't look bad, so I guess it's worth a shot. I felt the same way about Dyami too. Should have re-signed him.

Overall, I just feel like this team is really old. Maybe the oldest in the league. You know what happens when you have too many old guys. You're going to have injuries and a slip in play.

But we got #5. I feel like he is going to have to put on the cape and outscore a lot of teams.

https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/news/commanders-sign-von-miller-fastest-nfl-pass-rusher

Might not be as washed up as some of you think…

Of course we have a really old roster -- inevitable when Rivera's draft picks were so horrible. I mean, remarkably bad. In just the first round, he picked Chase Young (2020), Jamin Davis (2021), Jahan Dotson (2022), and Emmanuel Forbes (2023) -- who knows if Davis, Dotson or Forbes will be on a team this year -- like any team? I forgive him the Young pick -- we all thought that would work out. But, man, the others...

As far as Dyami and Fowler, I don't feel we lost too much there. Dyami really only came on in the last few games of the season, and had he shown potential like that a year (or two or three) earlier, he'd still be on the team. More excited about our rookie, Lane. And Fowler was a liability against the run and his sack #s trailed off as the season went on. And it wasn't like our D line was dominant with him. The new vets will be more stout against the run and Miller will be a situational rusher. Overall, I think the line will be better for that. Would I like a younger and more dynamic rusher? Sure. But let's not forget, AP inherited a team with more holes than players, and we got to the NFC Championship in year 1. I would not have expected a turnaround much before year 3. And I think he will build something special that will last with younger guys, but we'll need to plug in some vets to bridge to that team. And as to that, so far his track record has been very, very good.