V. Jackson "Prepared to Sit out season"

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

There's no hole dude, Marshall is more explosive than Wes Welker.

wow...I think you are on an island with that one buddy.

Heck, Randle El had two GREAT years in the slot for us, but we figured we could do better than him.

Umm, what?????? I don't know what to say to that. I obviously believe you are waaaay off with your first statement cause everyone realizes that Welker is more explosive, but at least you have an opinion you are firm about...but this is borderline lunacy. Not only did you use the word "great", you capitalized it!!!! This is a guy that averaged ONLY 46.5 catches, 550.5 yards over 4 years, and had ONLY 8 tds (average of 2 a year). So I am morbidly curious to hear your explanation on this one.

You are correct on the explosive vs. effective thing, but Marshall has never been really effective in his career. He was used differently under two different coaches, with a similar aggregate result.

Yup...pro bowl.

Catches aren't anyone's idea of a value stat, see: Mike Furrey, 2006.

Sorry man, I hate to keep saying it, cause usually you offer very good comments, but wrong again. You would be correct if your sample set was only 1 year. But Marshall has 100+ catches for 3 straight seasons...something Furrey never even accomplished once. To compare the two is way off in any set or format.

Or for some more circular logic, any Brandon Marshall season. Yards per touch is a lot better for a value metric: yards are necessarily contested at least, unlike catches. But yards per touch is just yards per catch (which we've been using) without rushing attempts. At that point, you're combining things just to combine things to change results.

Actually what I did was blow your comments out of the water. This is exactly what you said (Marshall)"never ranked in the top ten in any value statistic in any one season of his career." Well, I provided 10 times in which he was (in 4 seasons mind you), and even if you think 2 are the same, that's 8 times which I proved you wrong. Yet, you refuse to acknowledge it. That's not really my issue. I've proved my point beyond a shadow of a doubt. Still it's a matter of opinion, and you are on an extreme island in think Marshall is middle of the pack wr. I can't make myself any more clear on my comments...so I guess we will have to agree to disagree even though you have provided no proof of your opinions like I have. To each his own.