Skins-Vikes Post game good & bad

[punch it in]

Good: almo - feel bad for him.
D-jax - feel bad for him.
Rg-3 at times.
Lack of penalties.
Tres Way. Great game.
Bad: Where the hell was reed, garcon , roberts? All the other playmakers
RG -3 at times
Wtf was with Roberts
And not calling fair catches?
Jim Ha...i cant even type his name. I get ill.
Oline is a hot mess. What else is new?

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by punch it in

<snip>Bad: Where the hell was reed, garcon , roberts?

<snip>Oline is a hot mess. What else is new?

Reed didn't have a big impact because he was targeted once. And without even rewatching the game, I can pretty much guarantee that he was open just about evey time. Not his fault that RG didn't look his way.

As for the O-line, it's not a coincidence that Griffin makes his return and the line immediately looks worse. Him holding onto the ball so long isn't always bad, but it will make the line look worse occasionally.

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Reed didn't have a big impact because he was targeted once. And without even rewatching the game, I can pretty much guarantee that he was open just about evey time. Not his fault that RG didn't look his way.

I haven't rewatched the game either, but Cooley and the guys on the radio saw it differently. They said Zimmer knew Reed was RG's fallback option and they had him shadowed most of the night.

RG definitely over-targets Reed in trouble situations, so this probably added to his hesitation in the pocket.

[MTK]

3 blown leads, what else is there to say.

[Evilgrin]

I like Gruden, feel like he will figure it out as long as Snyder doesn't meddle too much.

[MTK]

Garcon had a perfect ball fall right through his hands. Could have been a big play.

[JoeRedskin]

The whole Snyder Hate thing is starting to drive me up a wall. Was he on the field at the Cowboys game?

Sure, he has an opinion about what he wants. Guy paid a bazillion dollars for the team, writes a few million in paychecks every week - you know what, he's entitled.

Does he emasculate his coach in prime time? Is he wheeling an injured RGIII around on the sideline like the Atlanta owner did with Vick way back when?

I am just not convinced that Snyder's "meddling" is anymore than most owners in this league.

Gruden held Griffin out, even though he was physically ready for the Cowboys game. If Snyder wanted to meddle, THAT was the time to meddle. Gruden said "Colt starts" and Colt started.

Gruden is going to get his opportunity. So far, so good. Fire Hazlett and so much the better.

vent over.

[Rotten1980]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

The whole Snyder Hate thing is starting to drive me up a wall. Was he on the field at the Cowboys game?

Sure, he has an opinion about what he wants. Guy paid a bazillion dollars for the team, writes a few million in paychecks every week - you know what, he's entitled.

Does he emasculate his coach in prime time? Is he wheeling an injured RGIII around on the sideline like the Atlanta owner did with Vick way back when?

I am just not convinced that Snyder's "meddling" is anymore than most owners in this league.

Gruden held Griffin out, even though he was physically ready for the Cowboys game. If Snyder wanted to meddle, THAT was the time to meddle. Gruden said "Colt starts" and Colt started.

Gruden is going to get his opportunity. So far, so good. Fire Hazlett and so much the better.

vent over.

Snyder actually deserves credit for keeping his cool...after turning the team over to the professional GM (Allen) the on field product has mostly been worse, and often far worse, than the Cerrato days, especially when Gibbs/Williams were on the sidelines.

I'm not suggesting Snyder step back into a more active role or anything like that, but if he's truly been more hands-off since Allen, it certainly hasn't translated to a better product.

[Grimm_Reaper]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

The whole Snyder Hate thing is starting to drive me up a wall. Was he on the field at the Cowboys game?

Sure, he has an opinion about what he wants. Guy paid a bazillion dollars for the team, writes a few million in paychecks every week - you know what, he's entitled.

Does he emasculate his coach in prime time? Is he wheeling an injured RGIII around on the sideline like the Atlanta owner did with Vick way back when?

I am just not convinced that Snyder's "meddling" is anymore than most owners in this league.

Gruden held Griffin out, even though he was physically ready for the Cowboys game. If Snyder wanted to meddle, THAT was the time to meddle. Gruden
said "Colt starts" and Colt started.

Gruden is going to get his opportunity. So far, so good. Fire Hazlett and so much the better.

vent over.

I think people are just frustrated with the past 15 years of Snyder. They want someone to blame for our unsatisfactory performance during his tenure. We haven't had a great season since the death of Jack Kent Cooke. There has been a pattern of Snyder over riding decisions and acting as GM and -allegedly- as coach over the years, and it's made people cynical and skeptical of every decision any coach makes past present and future. It doesn't help that we have ESPN adding fuel to the flames.

I'm grateful for Jay Gruden though. He's very direct and appears honest and improving with every game. We need a franchise coach just as badly if not more so than a franchise quarterback.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

The whole Snyder Hate thing is starting to drive me up a wall. Was he on the field at the Cowboys game?

Sure, he has an opinion about what he wants. Guy paid a bazillion dollars for the team, writes a few million in paychecks every week - you know what, he's entitled.

Does he emasculate his coach in prime time? Is he wheeling an injured RGIII around on the sideline like the Atlanta owner did with Vick way back when?

I am just not convinced that Snyder's "meddling" is anymore than most owners in this league.

Gruden held Griffin out, even though he was physically ready for the Cowboys game. If Snyder wanted to meddle, THAT was the time to meddle. Gruden said "Colt starts" and Colt started.

Gruden is going to get his opportunity. So far, so good. Fire Hazlett and so much the better.

vent over.

Admittedly, I don't read every post carefully, but are people STILL saying Snyder made Griff start?

If I'm going to throw my conspiracy theory out there, I think if anyone did, Allen did.

But this all seems silly, Griff is the #1, he needs to be starting anyway. I was hoping it wouldn't be until after the bye, but it is what it is. Dude played above average for having only played ONE game all year. So eh, f it.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Admittedly, I don't read every post carefully, but are people STILL saying Snyder made Griff start?

If I'm going to throw my conspiracy theory out there, I think if anyone did, Allen did.

But this all seems silly, Griff is the #1, he needs to be starting anyway. I was hoping it wouldn't be until after the bye, but it is what it is. Dude played above average for having only played ONE game all year. So eh, f it.

Honestly who hear thinks we would have won yesterday with Colt?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Honestly who hear thinks we would have won yesterday with Colt?

Thats an impossible question.
Edit/ Colt was probably feeling pretty confident after monday night. He gets the ball out quickly and understands the scheme. Of course Griff is the more athletic qb with the stronger arm etc etc.
Can you honestly say Colt would have lost the game? Im not saying one would have had a better chance than the other but I just dont think with everything going on rite now that its fair to say he would have won or lost. Who knows? Wish we could have a do over and find out. Lol.

[Grimm_Reaper]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Thats an impossible question.
Edit/ Colt was probably feeling pretty confident after monday night. He gets the ball out quickly and understands the scheme. Of course Griff is the more athletic qb with the stronger arm etc etc.
Can you honestly say Colt would have lost the game? Im not saying one would have had a better chance than the other but I just dont think with everything going on rite now that its fair to say he would have won or lost. Who knows? Wish we could have a do over and find out. Lol.

That is an impossible question. RG3, from a statistical stand point, is the guy you want at the helm out of our 3 quarter backs. That's without question, and he played damn good for his first game since the beginning of the season. The thing is, statistics don't mean everything in football. Morale, momentum, confidence, and leadership are all real and important things.

I'm a bit superstitious admittedly, and I believe in Karma to some degree or another. Having Colt McCoy play his heart out and lead us to two game wins back to back, the first time since 2012 mind you, and then say "hey man, thanks for leading us to get those wins, but go to hell kid, Robert's back." That's bad joo-joo. Say what you will about McCoy, but every player on the field that night in Dallas was running on all cylinders with him behind center.

Whether there's tension in the locker room or not, I can't tell. Only the players and the coach have a feel for that, and it's better for everyone that it stays that way. I just hope that if there is they resolve it quickly. I'm not sure about you guys but I could give a damn less who's behind center. I want to win, and I'm sick of not doing so. Let's get a good look at RG3, and I pray he performs and takes this loss and turns it into a series of wins, but if he can't deliver wins, we need to find out who can.

HTTR

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Honestly who hear thinks we would have won yesterday with Colt?

Does he play defense?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Does he play defense?

He doesnt. He would fit rite in!