Skins-Vikes Post game good & bad

Ruhskins · 11-03-2014, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Helu would be a great all around 3rd down back if he could block.

The team should bring Clinton Portis as a running backs blocking coach.

Hog1 · 11-03-2014, 08:26 PM

Good....bad?
I'll post later after the rewind at 930

Redskin Warrior · 11-03-2014, 10:24 PM

I honestly believe Snyder has a bullseye on his back for not changing the teams name. That's were a lot of this locker room divided bs stems from and he forced Griff back in crap imo. RG3 looked healthy to me

DYoungJelly · 11-03-2014, 10:34 PM

Haven't actually seen the latest presser by Jay, but there are reports of a couple of interesting quotes.

1. The jury is still out on the qb situation.

I read that as one of many brutally honest statements by coach.

2. He was defending Haz.

I havent actually seen the presser but that would seem to place the blame on the players.

I was curious to see the blitz % was about the norm compared to other games, Dallas excluded. I am curious what the breakdown would be 1st half very 2nd half.

Ruhskins · 11-03-2014, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Haven't actually seen the latest presser by Jay, but there are reports of a couple of interesting quotes.

1. The jury is still out on the qb situation.

I read that as one of many brutally honest statements by coach.

2. He was defending Haz.

I havent actually seen the presser but that would seem to place the blame on the players.

I was curious to see the blitz % was about the norm compared to other games, Dallas excluded. I am curious what the breakdown would be 1st half very 2nd half.

Reading the excerpts on Twitter, doesn't sound like Gruden was defending anyone.

DYoungJelly · 11-04-2014, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Reading the excerpts on Twitter, doesn't sound like Gruden was defending anyone.

First paragraph says he was defending Haz

NFL Jay Gruden says defensive issues plentiful - ESPN

punch it in · 11-04-2014, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

First paragraph says he was defending Haz

NFL Jay Gruden says defensive issues plentiful - ESPN

He clearly states that scheme wise they could have done better. I dont think he is defending Haslett as much as he is blaming the players as well as Haslett. Like the Redskins....a weak defense.
Either way that guy is gone for good by next year. Hopefully sooner.

skinsguy · 11-04-2014, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

He clearly states that scheme wise they could have done better. I dont think he is defending Haslett as much as he is blaming the players as well as Haslett. Like the Redskins....a weak defense.
Either way that guy is gone for good by next year. Hopefully sooner.

How many times do we keep saying that until it comes true?

NC_Skins · 11-04-2014, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

First paragraph says he was defending Haz

NFL Jay Gruden says defensive issues plentiful - ESPN

I don't care what that article says. I watched both the post game and day after presser and he didn't defend Haslett. He simply stated that you can't point all that was wrong on one person. (haz)

JWsleep · 11-03-2014, 10:45 PM

No, I think Gruden's thing is to spread the blame to all. He defended Haz in the face of a pretty harsh question about firing Haz now. No head coach would throw his DC under the bus like that.

He did say that they still blitzed quite a bit, but that the LB blitzes didn't get home for some reason. Also, one problem was that they lost containment a number of times, something they didn't do against the cowboys. But he said they wanted to show some coverages to the rookie and see what he'd do--obviously, he did well.

One big thing I took from the presser was Gruden urging that we need to stay together as a team, and the what he's looking for is competitors who will continue to fight their way out of this. I think Gruden is a good guy and has the makings of a good coach. But it's a hornet's nest in DC for a number of reasons. Hope the guy gets the support he needs and doesn't burn out or get fired early. That's as much of the root of our problems as anything, IMHO.

We were a friggin 3 win team last year. No magic words will change us instantly into a contender. 5-6 wins is a good season in my book, so long as we see some progress with the team, particularly at QB. We've only been blown out of one game. The rest we were in and killed ourselves, mostly. That's fixable. Not sure if Haz is the guy, but I feel like Gruden has the stones to do it, given the chance.

calia · 11-03-2014, 10:54 PM

Seeing the Giants get crushed would be sweeter had we won yesterday. Sigh. It's like Alice in Wonderland- jam yesterday and jam tomorrow, but never jam today.

Evilgrin · 11-04-2014, 09:38 AM

The skins roster isn't very good. Gruden is 50/50 run/pass for the season also.

JoeRedskin · 11-04-2014, 11:47 AM

As usual, Keim nails it:

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On Sunday, the first sack, by rookie Anthony Barr, wasn’t a matter of Griffin holding on to the ball too long. He was down in 2.2 seconds. It was a matter of Minnesota overloading a gap inside and running back Roy Helu being unable to slow Barr.

Another time Helu couldn’t stop Chad Greenway on a sack that took 2.8 seconds, although Griffin could have unloaded a short crossing route to tight end Jordan Reed. He might not have picked up a first down on third-and-8, but it would have avoided a fourth-and-18 punt from the Redskins’ 10-yard line.

Interior pressure on second-and-16 on the final drive tested Griffin in the pocket. Saying what he should have done is a lot easier than knowing how to do it in the pocket, and every quarterback runs himself into a sack sometimes. But he tried to step through an area where he had no chance and was sacked.

The Redskins have a group that is not great in protection -- it’s not just the line -- in front of a quarterback who will hold on to the ball longer. It’s a tough mix. Both sides need to help each other.

The Film Don't Lie: Redskins - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN

WillH · 11-04-2014, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

As usual, Keim nails it:

The Film Don't Lie: Redskins - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN

i miss Portis. I loved when he would knock the snot out of defenders blitzing the QB.

Lotus · 11-04-2014, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WillH

i miss Portis. I loved when he would knock the snot out of defenders blitzing the QB.

No joke. Portis was da bomb in pass pro.

11-03-2014, 08:26 PM	#2
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Skins-Vikes Post game good & bad Good....bad? I'll post later after the rewind at 930 __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

11-03-2014, 10:34 PM	#4
DYoungJelly The Starter Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,300	Re: Skins-Vikes Post game good & bad Haven't actually seen the latest presser by Jay, but there are reports of a couple of interesting quotes. 1. The jury is still out on the qb situation. I read that as one of many brutally honest statements by coach. 2. He was defending Haz. I havent actually seen the presser but that would seem to place the blame on the players. I was curious to see the blitz % was about the norm compared to other games, Dallas excluded. I am curious what the breakdown would be 1st half very 2nd half.

11-03-2014, 10:45 PM	#10
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Re: Skins-Vikes Post game good & bad No, I think Gruden's thing is to spread the blame to all. He defended Haz in the face of a pretty harsh question about firing Haz now. No head coach would throw his DC under the bus like that. He did say that they still blitzed quite a bit, but that the LB blitzes didn't get home for some reason. Also, one problem was that they lost containment a number of times, something they didn't do against the cowboys. But he said they wanted to show some coverages to the rookie and see what he'd do--obviously, he did well. One big thing I took from the presser was Gruden urging that we need to stay together as a team, and the what he's looking for is competitors who will continue to fight their way out of this. I think Gruden is a good guy and has the makings of a good coach. But it's a hornet's nest in DC for a number of reasons. Hope the guy gets the support he needs and doesn't burn out or get fired early. That's as much of the root of our problems as anything, IMHO. We were a friggin 3 win team last year. No magic words will change us instantly into a contender. 5-6 wins is a good season in my book, so long as we see some progress with the team, particularly at QB. We've only been blown out of one game. The rest we were in and killed ourselves, mostly. That's fixable. Not sure if Haz is the guy, but I feel like Gruden has the stones to do it, given the chance. __________________ Hail from Houston!

11-03-2014, 10:54 PM	#11
calia Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Woodside, CA Age: 57 Posts: 3,740	Re: Skins-Vikes Post game good & bad Seeing the Giants get crushed would be sweeter had we won yesterday. Sigh. It's like Alice in Wonderland- jam yesterday and jam tomorrow, but never jam today. __________________ "Coach, what do you think of your team's execution?" "I'm all for it." -- Coach McKay

11-04-2014, 09:38 AM	#12
Evilgrin The Starter Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 1,074	Re: Skins-Vikes Post game good & bad The skins roster isn't very good. Gruden is 50/50 run/pass for the season also. __________________ Bruce Allen “We’re winning off the field,” Redskins #2 In Revenue Per Year!

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