We traded for T.J. Duckett?

I don't know if this has been mentioned already. But Gibbs was an owner of the Falcons when they drafted Duckett. And while Gibbs wasn't very actively involved with the team I'm sure he got to see Duckett up close and personal several times in games and practices so he must have some sense of what TJ can do for the Skins

I don't know if this has been mentioned already. But Gibbs was an owner of the Falcons when they drafted Duckett. And while Gibbs wasn't very actively involved with the team I'm sure he got to see Duckett up close and personal several times in games and practices so he must have some sense of what TJ can do for the Skins
I like the way you think. I really think Gibbs and Saunders sat down and thought this one through. Two offensive masterminds decided this is what we would need.

The way i understand, its not that we are swapping positions with them we will be outright giving them our first round pick if we end up with a worse record than the broncos.

You don't understand the deal.

Scenario 1: Redskins finish with a worse record than Broncos
Result: Broncos swap first round picks with Skins (meaning they get ours, we get theirs), plus the Skins give Broncos a 2007 3rd.
Hypothetical situation, that I really really hope doesn't happen: Everything goes wrong for the Skins, they wind up with a top 10 draft pick. Everything goes right for Denver, they get the 32nd pick. Under this deal, Denver gets that top ten pick, Skins get the 32nd.

Scenario 2: Redskins finish with a better record than Broncos
Result: Skins give Broncos 2007 3rd and 2008 4th.

There is a bit more to the deal than that, but it's the simple version.

I don't know if this has been mentioned already. But Gibbs was an owner of the Falcons when they drafted Duckett. And while Gibbs wasn't very actively involved with the team I'm sure he got to see Duckett up close and personal several times in games and practices so he must have some sense of what TJ can do for the Skins

Well, only a 5% owner...

Look at this snippet I found. Scary to think he could be coaching the Falcons now. Thanks for the loyalty, Coach Gibbs.

From Wikipedia:

In 2002, Gibbs and a small group of investors bought five percent of the Atlanta Falcons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Falcons) from owner, Arthur Blank (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Blank) for $27 million[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Gibbs#_note-2). It wasn't until late 2003 when Gibbs really started to catch the football fever again. Arthur Blank and his general manager, Rich McKay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_McKay) quickly interviewed him for the Falcons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Falcons)'s vacant head coaching position due to the firing of Dan Reeves (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Reeves). However when Gibbs found out that Steve Spurrier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Spurrier) resigned as the Redskins' head coach, they realized that even though Gibbs was one of the team's minority owners, his loyalty still lies with the Redskins

Don't go knocking my posts down with stats Buster! :boxing: (sorry I just felt like using that)

by the way, today at 2:30pm on ESPN2 you can watch the Washington Redskins 2005 Yearbook (and don't forget the World Sport Stacking Championships at 2pm on ESPN)

Don't go knocking my posts down with stats Buster! :boxing: (sorry I just felt like using that)

by the way, today at 2:30pm on ESPN2 you can watch the Washington Redskins 2005 Yearbook (and don't forget the World Sport Stacking Championships at 2pm on ESPN)


Shameless plug, huh TAF?

You don't understand the deal.

Scenario 1: Redskins finish with a worse record than Broncos
Result: Broncos swap first round picks with Skins (meaning they get ours, we get theirs), plus the Skins give Broncos a 2007 3rd.
Hypothetical situation, that I really really hope doesn't happen: Everything goes wrong for the Skins, they wind up with a top 10 draft pick. Everything goes right for Denver, they get the 32nd pick. Under this deal, Denver gets that top ten pick, Skins get the 32nd.

Scenario 2: Redskins finish with a better record than Broncos
Result: Skins give Broncos 2007 3rd and 2008 4th.

There is a bit more to the deal than that, but it's the simple version.

In the reports i have seen i did NOT see the word SWAP. This is the a quote from the report i saw.

"The report said that Denver will receive Washington's first- and third-round picks if the Redskins finish with a worse record than the Broncos this season. If Washington finishes with a better record, Denver would receive third- and fourth-round picks. "
Show me where you see SWAP in there.

I still have yet to hear from any of the Major sports news networks anything other than a 3rd round pick. I dont believe there is anything else.

In the reports i have seen i did NOT see the word SWAP. This is the a quote from the report i saw.

"The report said that Denver will receive Washington's first- and third-round picks if the Redskins finish with a worse record than the Broncos this season. If Washington finishes with a better record, Denver would receive third- and fourth-round picks. "
Show me where you see SWAP in there.

There are plenty of other reports that mention the swap of 1st rounders. I'm tired of posting it so you'll have to look back in this thread.

Giving up a 1st rounder makes no sense at all. Common sense says a swap makes much, much, more sense.

We'll know the exact details soon enough.

Sounds a lot like another great power back, Jerome Bettis.

He's definitely going to offer up something entirely different than Portis. A true thunder and lightening combo.

You stole my thunder Matty that was the comparison I was about to make, and just like Betts he was traded early in his carreer. I also see similaratys to Larry Johnson.

I don't have a problem with this trade, Duckett is still young and I doubt you can find a back of his caliber in the the third round, further more he really fit what we want to do. I just don't want this to be a 1 year rental, I do believe we now have a true thunder and lightning backfield.