Should Hillary Hang It Up?

all kind of love being passed around on the warpath- it brings a tear to my eye

Actually Buster Kerry narrowly carried Oregon 51 to 47 percent in the 04 election.

Yes, John Kerry...the perfect example of an ideal candidate. :D

Ahhh....Wewhite........memories....that's beautiful

Yes, John Kerry...the perfect example of an ideal candidate. :D

I'm just saying it's pretty much a swing state so what you said, even though intended to be funny, didn't make any sense.

Obama draws 75,000 in Oregon (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/obama-draws-record-crowd-in-oregon/?hp). That's insane.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/05/18/us/politics/obama-oregon533.2.jpg


Ineresting omission by the media. :D

Free Concert by Popular Band Preceded Obama’s Big Rally | NewsBusters.org (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/robert-knight/2008/05/20/free-concert-popular-band-preceded-obama-s-big-rally)

Ineresting omission by the media. :D

Free Concert by Popular Band Preceded Obama’s Big Rally | NewsBusters.org (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/robert-knight/2008/05/20/free-concert-popular-band-preceded-obama-s-big-rally)

Yeah, but those kinds of things are pretty common. Repubs and Dems often use bands, celebrities and other politicians to help draw crowds. It's pretty hard to deny that Obama has a big and devoted "fan base."

I'm sure that 75,000 people weren't there just to see The Decemberists. I'm pretty up to date with music and I have no idea who they even are. Their last album peaked at #35 on the Billboard 200, I guess they're not exactly a household name so maybe that's why some papers didn't report it? I mean if it was Springsteen or someone like that I'm sure that would have been news.

I think we all agree that racism, in whatever form, should cease. The question here is whether it is racist to vote for a presidential candidate in part or whole because that candidate is black.

If your answer is yes, why? I assume your response is that any decision which is affected by someone's race is inherently a racist one. If that is the case, does that mean President Nixon was a racist because his administration aggressively pushed affirmative action? Or how about people who choose not to date people from a similar ethnic background? Does that mean that people who won't adopt kids from outside their race are racist?

I think it's sometimes difficult to discern what is really racist.

Im sorry but the answer to all of your questions is yes.It is racist to not adopt a kid just because of race.It is racist to not date someone just because of race.And when it comes down to it, affirmitve action is racist ,even though it was needed and has probably done a lot of good.To me, anything that gives someone an advantage or disadvatage based only on race is racist.I believe the words race, age, and sex should be wiped off of any and all applications and tests.That information is just not relevent and grouping people like that only serves to push a wedge between people.

I'm sure that 75,000 people weren't there just to see The Decemberists. I'm pretty up to date with music and I have no idea who they even are. Their last album peaked at #35 on the Billboard 200, I guess they're not exactly a household name so maybe that's why some papers didn't report it? I mean if it was Springsteen or someone like that I'm sure that would have been news.
Its a Partland based band which means that the people in Partland (which was the site of the rally" would know them before they hit the big times. I saw the Dave Matthews Band before they went big time and if I would have posted it on a National site who I saw about 99% of the people would have said "Dave WHo" and a year latter about 90% would know the name. I think he was very smart to use the band but the media was just doing what the media does best. Thats why like 85% of the media admitted to voting Dem. and it shows in their reporting.

Its a Partland based band which means that the people in Partland (which was the site of the rally" would know them before they hit the big times. I saw the Dave Matthews Band before they went big time and if I would have posted it on a National site who I saw about 99% of the people would have said "Dave WHo" and a year latter about 90% would know the name. I think he was very smart to use the band but the media was just doing what the media does best. Thats why like 85% of the media admitted to voting Dem. and it shows in their reporting.

That's basically my point. A local band isn't going to get much of a mention nationally.