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KLHJ2 07-07-2009, 01:50 PM I could probably knock out Mike Tyson if I had a complete day to look at the film of him beating my ass first. All I need is a time machine.
Sadly, not even NFL players have that luxury so they have to rely on practice and instincts. You may be able to dissect the film now, play armchair QB and tell everyone what he should have done. The fact is that you could not have done it yourself if placed in that situation. There are not many people that can.
While I may be a Colt Brennan advocate, in no way do I know for certain that he could have done better in that situation. We have not seen him play in an actual NFL football game. I liked him out of college and he impressed against players that he should have in preseason. I think that his accuracy and instincts are better than JC's. However, until Colt actually starts a game we will not know for sure. Quite honestly, JC hasn't done enough to lose his job just as Colt hasn't done enough to earn it.
44Deezel 07-07-2009, 01:56 PM It's all in the video!!! :soapbox:
LOL. :laughing2
Wow. I am just getting to this video. Those 3rd down stats are astonishingly bad. I've seen some of the posts rationalizing this analysis, but the video clearly points out flaws in JC's game. Receivers don't need to be all-world to be "open" (a relative term in the NFL), particularly against zone defenses. He clearly has time to throw and the receivers are clearly in a position to make a play. Down 16 points in the 4th quarter and still dinking and dunking is inexcusable. Maybe Gibbs ruined him by making him petrified of turnovers.
I think JC's got all the ability to be a good NFL QB. He just needs to take more chances and stop worrying about making mistakes. Hell, the plays he missed aren't even risky. They're very run of the mill.
GTripp0012 07-07-2009, 02:10 PM answer me this along with my other previous questions before I answer your foolish and biased questions; Okaywhere would you all rank JC among the other 31 starting QBs in the NFL 1 being the best?11-15 range.
Redskingirl has no meaning to this conversation cause she asked me to name every QB that's better than JC in the playoffs, and I said all of them are, plus she's getting her stats from NFL.com so I coils careless about what a girl has to say about my redskinsWell, the point is you gave a terrible and biased answer, because you don't even know who was in the playoffs last year. Kerry Collins, Joe Flacco, Ben Roethlisberger, Jake Delhomme and Tavaris Jackson all quarterbacked teams in the playoffs. Only ONE of those players was better in the regular season than Campbell. One. That means Campbell would have been the ninth best playoff Quarterback based only on 2008 results.
Telling you which one of them it was kinda defeats the purpose, as they all got there on the coattails of their teams. I'd rather just have you mindlessly speculate with limited information. It's been pretty enjoyable to this point.
Someone said that them and that skins girl are more knowledgeable than I am in football, and they are still wrong I spend hours watching the skins over and over again checking what they did wrong etc etc and can tell you lots about offense defenses who to play and lots of football facts especially about college and the NFLSee, you've already come on here and conclusively proven that you can't put coherent thoughts together, so it really doesn't matter how much film you watch, does it?
You're also lying.
As for the administrative stuff, sounds like you have a ban coming.
GTripp0012 07-07-2009, 02:14 PM Ths first clip wasnt a cover 2 boys and girls. the corner keeps dropping back. LOOK AT THE VID. he points while he continues to drop back in deep coverage to the wr that cuts underneath on the cross. meanwhile the defender picks him up as the slot runs the post. he is OPEN with the safety over the top.The vid is a complete joke. Get over it already.
GTripp0012 07-07-2009, 02:20 PM Wow. I am just getting to this video. Those 3rd down stats are astonishingly bad. I've seen some of the posts rationalizing this analysis, but the video clearly points out flaws in JC's game. Receivers don't need to be all-world to be "open" (a relative term in the NFL), particularly against zone defenses. He clearly has time to throw and the receivers are clearly in a position to make a play. Down 16 points in the 4th quarter and still dinking and dunking is inexcusable. Maybe Gibbs ruined him by making him petrified of turnovers.Surely, you are smart enough to see the bias in the video.
The stats are unbiased, they show the ineffectiveness of our passing game on third down. Unfortunately for you, Campbell does in fact have to rely on his teammates, and realistically shares only a small part of the blame.
GTripp0012 07-07-2009, 02:22 PM Clip 3 vs the gmen. when he shows where the first down line is look at the number 3 wr in the slot to the bottom of the screen. Thats as open as you are going to get. if the ball is out its a completion. the safety is over the top of the wr. underneath the defender again goes to the wr coming on a short cross from the top of the screen.I'm sure the safety who was standing right over him at the first down marker would not have moved once the ball is thrown.
This is essentially what you are saying, correct?
44Deezel 07-07-2009, 02:28 PM Surely, you are smart enough to see the bias in the video.
The stats are unbiased, they show the ineffectiveness of our passing game on third down. Unfortunately for you, Campbell does in fact have to rely on his teammates, and realistically shares only a small part of the blame.
I'm really not. I dumb;) I'm not convinced of anything, so I'll take the wimpy way out and say I have no strong opinion about what's going to happen with Campbell next year. I hope he has a great season, but wouldn't be surprised if his play is mediocre, and he becomes a back-up somewhere for the rest of his career. There are a lot of good QBs riding the pine in the NFL. It's hard to be a bonafied, career-long starter, and it only gets harder with age. Just ask the likes of Brad Johnson and Jeff Garcia.
GTripp0012 07-07-2009, 02:31 PM On this play you (and Wilcotts) are asking Campbell to make a 30 yard throw, from the opposite hash, to the sideline, with a safety in cover two with no mid field threat. ...To a player not even in the progression.
For the record, Jay Cutler would have gotten intercepted or near intercepted on this play...and he himself would never have even looked at Thrash.
GTripp0012 07-07-2009, 02:38 PM One on one coverage. sorry man but this is the NFL, you arent going to have WIDE open wr's very often.Is the fact that you have no idea what you are seeing on film supposed to be an argument for or against Campbell?
DBUCHANON101 07-07-2009, 02:39 PM I'm sure the safety who was standing right over him at the first down marker would not have moved once the ball is thrown.
This is essentially what you are saying, correct?
clip 3.the ball was on the 48 yard line the slot wr ran straight down the field the safety back pedaled to his 27 as the wr was around the 37 =10 yard cushion.look for your self its 1:17 into the video. at the beginning of the play the slot wr is lined up on the 50 yd line as the safety is on the 34 yd line. the OLB drops back and then follows Cooley to the inside leaving the slot locked up with the safety. AGAIN this is the NFL you wont have wide open WR's on each play,you have to hit the windows as they open.
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