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dmek25 08-05-2009, 07:52 AM Well if our O-Line scares you and your not sitting back there taking hits, than how will Jason Campbell feel? Thats why he is a QB and your a fan. We got to Man Up and go kicks some azzzzz.
exactly what does this mean?
CRedskinsRule 08-05-2009, 08:14 AM Our line is in big trouble at the moment. Someone might say this is jumping the gun, I would tell them to look at the last 8 games from last year...
can anyone tell me the starting OLine lineup for the last 4 games of the year? Particularly SF and Cinci. I looked and found snippets, but couldn't find the straightforward LT, LG, C, RG, RT listings.
I ask because, in trying to either a) convince myself I am right or b) Cause me to doubt myself completely, I wanted to compare that group to the group we are looking at now. For example,
Cincy starters (I believe):
LT/RT Heyer/ Jansen, and clearly a below avg pairing
Heyer was not a great run blocker = reduced our running threat to the left
Jansen could not pass block anyone = Campbell on a**, Portis maybe maybe not
Backups - uh hey guy with the big beer belly seat 13, yes you , can you come out and cover LT for us. Thx.
Current starters
LT/RT Samuels/Heyer - I believe an above avg pairing
Samuels =if he's in I aint worried about the left side
Heyer = Competent pass and run block, ought to be a notch better this year
backups
Heyer = average LT (WOULD SO LIKE LEVI JONES IN THIS SPOT)
Bridges = proven starter, could fill believe he's a solid upgrade from last year.
wildcard -- can M Williams be ready by the bye week to be a suitable backup.
I believe the same kind of comparison could be made for the guard positions, but not as clear on them. as for the center, well I hope Edwin Williams is the real deal.
Wow, didn't take long for the sky to start falling huh.
Look, some of these tweaks are things that wouldn't even be a blip on the radar during the season. But in August there's no reason to risk guys so a broken finger nail is going to keep a guy out of practice. Rabach is coming back today, and we knew from the start that Thomas was going to be brought along slowly during the preseason.
joethiesmanfan 08-05-2009, 08:34 AM Worreid about O-line but i got a feeling we gonna see production from the d-line like the days of Butz, Manley, and Mann once again!!! Half full.
Schneed10 08-05-2009, 08:45 AM While I'm not panicking over Heyer, it's somewhat hard for me to understand why we don't go out and pick up Jon Runyan, who has been on the market all spring and summer. Even at his advanced age he's still an upgrade over Heyer, even when Heyer is healthy.
Maybe he's demanding a lot of $, I don't know. We don't have the cap space to go signing somebody to a deal with a significant signing bonus. But seems like we should at least stop to sniff that fire hydrant.
They have an open roster spot, Manapuna was released and nobody was signed to take his spot. Maybe Vinny's gearing up to do something (warning, pure speculation, no basis for this).
CRedskinsRule 08-05-2009, 08:48 AM Schneed do you have a ballpark of what we could sign someone for? I think they probably are looking for a solid OT but it seems like everyone may be asking too much right now.
dmek25 08-05-2009, 09:10 AM schneed, im with you on this. but Runyan probably wants more then a one year deal. i do agree even at his age, he is an upgrade
Schneed10 08-05-2009, 09:22 AM Schneed do you have a ballpark of what we could sign someone for? I think they probably are looking for a solid OT but it seems like everyone may be asking too much right now.
Well, apparently we just signed DJ Hackett and waived Roydell Williams. I'm guessing they offset each other when it comes to the cap.
After Jansen's release and allowing for rookie signings, we should have in the neighborhood of $2.0 million in space. CC is doing an update this week so we'll get a better number with more detail behind it then.
But assuming the $2.0 is right, and assuming we need to leave $0.5 available to help with other injuries, it sure seems like we can afford to pay somebody a Pete Kendall type deal. 1 or 2 years for $1.5 million per season.
Schneed10 08-05-2009, 09:27 AM And apparently we signed this Marquart guy (a DT) to replace Manapuna's roster spot.
So there goes the theory that we are about to grab an OT. Doesn't mean it can't happen, I'm sure that as camp goes along if the coaches find reason to worry about RT, they'll send Vinny out to bark up all kinds of free agent trees.
CRedskinsRule 08-05-2009, 09:28 AM Well, apparently we just signed DJ Hackett and waived Roydell Williams. I'm guessing they offset each other when it comes to the cap.
After Jansen's release and allowing for rookie signings, we should have in the neighborhood of $2.0 million in space. CC is doing an update this week so we'll get a better number with more detail behind it then.
But assuming the $2.0 is right, and assuming we need to leave $0.5 available to help with other injuries, it sure seems like we can afford to pay somebody a Pete Kendall type deal. 1 or 2 years for $1.5 million per season.
Good info, Thanks
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