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celts32 02-25-2010, 10:14 AM The shoulder issue is getting old and we don't even need to worry about that with Dr. Andrews on the payroll. We will have the best info available. Tim Ryan on Sirius NFL radio said that Bradford just needs a year in the NFL to hit the weight room and his 6-4 frame can easily take on more weight. There is always and injury factor in pro football.
BigHairedAristocrat 02-25-2010, 10:21 AM While I think the idea of keeping Campbell around for atleast a year has some merit, if the Shanahans have decided that he's not the QB of the future, and theyre going to draft a QB of the future, then they need to move Campbell now. While i'd like to get more than a 3rd and a 5th for him, the reality is that if we draft Bradford at 4, Campbells trade value plumets. And if we kept Campbell until 2011, we wouldnt get anything for him at all. In the past, we've held on to guys too long and its come back to bite us.(Remember, the Dolphins offered us a 1st rounder for Ramsey. 1 season later, we let him go for a 6th, if i remember properly). If the decision has been made that Campbell is not the long-term answer here, then lets move him now. Better a year too soon than a year too late.
johno 02-25-2010, 10:26 AM If the decision has been made that Campbell is not the long-term answer here, then lets move him now. Better a year too soon than a year too late.
well said BHA, i never thought about it like that. if we plan on drafting our future qb at 4, and Campbell is a UFA at the end of next season, why not get some value out of him now? if campbell is only to be a body to take hits until bradford/clausen is ready, that shouldnt be hard to find in FA.
The shoulder issue is getting old and we don't even need to worry about that with Dr. Andrews on the payroll. We will have the best info available. Tim Ryan on Sirius NFL radio said that Bradford just needs a year in the NFL to hit the weight room and his 6-4 frame can easily take on more weight. There is always and injury factor in pro football.
A NFL weight/nutrition program will have him bulked up in no time. He definitely has the frame to put on more weight.
Longtimefan 02-25-2010, 11:33 AM While I think the idea of keeping Campbell around for atleast a year has some merit, if the Shanahans have decided that he's not the QB of the future, and theyre going to draft a QB of the future, then they need to move Campbell now. While i'd like to get more than a 3rd and a 5th for him, the reality is that if we draft Bradford at 4, Campbells trade value plumets. And if we kept Campbell until 2011, we wouldnt get anything for him at all. In the past, we've held on to guys too long and its come back to bite us.(Remember, the Dolphins offered us a 1st rounder for Ramsey. 1 season later, we let him go for a 6th, if i remember properly). If the decision has been made that Campbell is not the long-term answer here, then lets move him now. Better a year too soon than a year too late.
Jason's situation could become complex depending on the type year he has if he's the SQB in 2010. If we draft a Bradford or Clausen and Jason has a pro-bowl type season his value will increase considerably with or without a new CBA. We could have another Champ Bailey type situation on our hands because no way will he want to stay here. So maybe moving him now, with the circumstances being what they are would be best if there's an equitable deal out there.
BigHairedAristocrat 02-25-2010, 11:56 AM Jason's situation could become complex depending on the type year he has if he's the SQB in 2010. If we draft a Bradford or Clausen and Jason has a pro-bowl type season his value will increase considerably with or without a new CBA. We could have another Champ Bailey type situation on our hands because no way will he want to stay here. So maybe moving him now, with the circumstances being what they are would be best if there's an equitable deal out there.
The chances of Jason Campbell putting up the best performance of his career and playing at a pro-bowl level in a new offensive system with no #4 draft pick caliber LT to help protect him (we're drafting a QB at 4 in this scenario) are slim to none. If Campbell were capeable of that type of performance, we wouldnt want to move him anyway.
There's an old saying half a sure thing is better than twice of nothing. the chances of us getting alot more from him next year don't outweigh the risk that we could get alot lets. we should take what we can get for him now, cut our losses, and move on.
Longtimefan 02-25-2010, 12:03 PM The chances of Jason Campbell putting up the best performance of his career and playing at a pro-bowl level in a new offensive system with no #4 draft pick caliber LT to help protect him (we're drafting a QB at 4 in this scenario) are slim to none. If Campbell were capeable of that type of performance, we wouldnt want to move him anyway.
There's an old saying half a sure thing is better than twice of nothing. the chances of us getting alot more from him next year don't outweigh the risk that we could get alot lets. we should take what we can get for him now, cut our losses, and move on.
Yeah, a pro-bowl type season for him was hypothetical thinking and believe me I really meant it to sound that way.
Ruhskins 02-25-2010, 12:10 PM The chances of Jason Campbell putting up the best performance of his career and playing at a pro-bowl level in a new offensive system with no #4 draft pick caliber LT to help protect him (we're drafting a QB at 4 in this scenario) are slim to none. If Campbell were capeable of that type of performance, we wouldnt want to move him anyway.
There's an old saying half a sure thing is better than twice of nothing. the chances of us getting alot more from him next year don't outweigh the risk that we could get alot lets. we should take what we can get for him now, cut our losses, and move on.
I really don't see Shanahan gambling his first year with the Redskins by either depending solely on Campbell without having a young QB in the wings or throwing a rook QB to the fire from day one.
The team should move him if a good offer comes along, if not then we should keep him and make him our starter until a rookie is ready. I don't understand why would want to settle for mediocre compensation for him.
SBXVII 02-25-2010, 12:32 PM While I think the idea of keeping Campbell around for atleast a year has some merit, if the Shanahans have decided that he's not the QB of the future, and theyre going to draft a QB of the future, then they need to move Campbell now. While i'd like to get more than a 3rd and a 5th for him, the reality is that if we draft Bradford at 4, Campbells trade value plumets. And if we kept Campbell until 2011, we wouldnt get anything for him at all. In the past, we've held on to guys too long and its come back to bite us.(Remember, the Dolphins offered us a 1st rounder for Ramsey. 1 season later, we let him go for a 6th, if i remember properly). If the decision has been made that Campbell is not the long-term answer here, then lets move him now. Better a year too soon than a year too late.
Ya know I didn't even factor this thought in. He won't have any value to us at all next yr since he will be a FA. I guess if I'm looking for more draft picks then moving JC is top issue. What bothers me is who would we bring in and would we be getting worse by trading out a Vet we already have for some one possibly worse.
Ruhskins 02-25-2010, 12:37 PM Ya know I didn't even factor this thought in. He won't have any value to us at all next yr since he will be a FA. I guess if I'm looking for more draft picks then moving JC is top issue. What bothers me is who would we bring in and would we be getting worse by trading out a Vet we already have for some one possibly worse.
Which is why it doesn't make sense moving him for low compensation. At worst he can be a back up if he's yanked in mid-season.
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