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GTripp0012 03-02-2010, 02:02 PM Peppers has been slightly better then people give him credit for. I mean he had a down year in 2007 but that was the year the Panthers got rid of their own double team magnet in Kris Jenkins. I mean the man got 14.5 sacks in 2008 and 10.5 last year being practically double teamed all the time. However given the fact that Peppers likely isn't coming here then I guess most of this discussion is a moot point.The problem with Peppers isn't really the total production, but the spread of it. After four games, the Panthers were 1-3, should have probably been 0-4 without some really fortunate bounces (literally) of the ball against us, and Peppers had basically given his team zero anything over that time frame.
The Panthers finished the season 8-8, three games out of a wild card spot, but with one of the best defenses in the league. Peppers was a large part of that. However, if he had played 16 games with the effort he played the final ten at, the Panthers could have been a playoff team.
The kind of team that has the most to gain from Peppers is the team that would already be a strong playoff team without him, but with him, could contend for the super bowl. New England would really be a good fit. Philadelphia, as well. Chicago maybe a little less so. For us, I think you'd get a monster player for the first 6 or 7 games, and then his production would kind of slip away into the background. Is that worth the money? It might be.
BigHairedAristocrat 03-02-2010, 02:09 PM if we end up going 3-4, i think we'll do everything we can to trade Carter.
I don't get the whole Peppers deal. He isn't that much more talented than Carter. He certainly won't be million$ more talented.
Peppers is definitely more talented than Carter, but Carter has the better motor.
I wouldn't pay Peppers either.
vallin21 03-02-2010, 02:15 PM Peppers would be a good signing if we were in a 4-3, but were most likely in a 3-4. Where would Peppers fit? He's not an OLB in a 3-4 and we have too many other areas of need to waste on a talented, but aging pass-rusher, this signing would be like the Jason Taylor trade 2 yrs ago. Why haven't I heard anything about us getting Rolle to play FS? He's a ballhawk and he could let LL use his talents at SS.
My wish list: Robinson, Rolle, Sproles, Bullock. Dansby is an ILB not an OLB in the 3-4, so that's why I put Bullock instead and sign him to a 2 yr deal w/ performance bouneses.
Lotus 03-02-2010, 02:25 PM if we end up going 3-4, i think we'll do everything we can to trade Carter.
IMO Carter is as good as gone. Once trading is allowed again on Friday I expect him to be moving elsewhere. I hope that we get something for him and don't just cut him.
Carter isn't going anywhere, especially not in a trade.
BigHairedAristocrat 03-02-2010, 02:32 PM IMO Carter is as good as gone. Once trading is allowed again on Friday I expect him to be moving elsewhere. I hope that we get something for him and don't just cut him.
given Carters performance last year, i think we could get a 4th for him.
Lotus 03-02-2010, 02:43 PM Carter isn't going anywhere, especially not in a trade.
Why is that?
DIE-NASTY 03-02-2010, 02:46 PM Peppers would be a good signing if we were in a 4-3, but were most likely in a 3-4. Where would Peppers fit? He's not an OLB in a 3-4 and we have too many other areas of need to waste on a talented, but aging pass-rusher, this signing would be like the Jason Taylor trade 2 yrs ago. Why haven't I heard anything about us getting Rolle to play FS? He's a ballhawk and he could let LL use his talents at SS.
My wish list: Robinson, Rolle, Sproles, Bullock. Dansby is an ILB not an OLB in the 3-4, so that's why I put Bullock instead and sign him to a 2 yr deal w/ performance bouneses.
The jason taylor signing didn't work because he's not a run-stopping DE. He doubled his production from 08-09 (skins 29 tackles, 3.5 sacks, 1 FF ---Miami42 tackles, 7 sacks, 1 int, 3 FF) because he played OLB in a 3-4. Granted, JT missed time when he played for us but overall he wasn't effective in our system no matter how many games he started or played in. Peppers is 5 years younger and arguably a better athlete. I'd argue he can hack it.
I don't disagree with wanting to go after Rolle. I don't think Bullock will sign a 2 year deal.
Why is that?
Despite all the crazy scenarios being dreamed up right now trades just aren't that common, and why would someone give up a pick in what's considered a deep draft for a 30 year old DE on the back side of his career?
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