diehardskin2982
04-07-2010, 05:17 PM
So I know this person who's as good a source on Haynesworth as Schefter is on Shanahan and this person says "Albert's very excited about McNabb and the rest of the additions the team has made. He's talking regularly with coach Haslett and is excited about the upcoming season."
so take that for what you will
If I was a player I would be too. For all the fabricated distractions being created, I hope he has a great year for us. All the moves that they are making should motivate all the guy's on the roster. AH at the end of his career wants to be compared to Reggie White and the only way that will happen is if he is on a conteder. For what its worth I think that Albert should call into one of these radio programs and state flat out "I want to be a Redskin and I will do everything they ask me to do on the field".... wait a sec he did do that on sirus sat radio, lol.
KI Skins Fan
04-07-2010, 05:18 PM
Honestly, i think we WANT to ensure that Detroit takes Okung so Suh or McCoy will fall to us and we have a number of opportunities to trade down. I think this has been what we've been hoping for all along and trading Haynesworth to either team would only help ensure the draft unfolds as we want. Obviously, we wouldnt move Big Al just to make that happen, but it would be an added bonus.
You must have dreamed up that idea. The biggest hole we have is Left Offensive Tackle. Okung is a consensus Top 5 Draft Pick who plays left tackle. Why wouldn't we want him to be there so we have a chance of filling that hole? Please don't tell me that some of the other OT's in the draft are just as good or almost just as good because they're not.
We can get another draft pick by trading JC or we can trade a 2011 pick for a pick this year if someone good falls in the draft but we must have a top notch LT from somewhere to get the production we need on offense.
If Okung is gone at #4, then I agree that trading down might be a good thing to do but if he's there I believe we need to take him.
BigHairedAristocrat
04-07-2010, 05:28 PM
You must have dreamed up that idea. The biggest hole we have is Left Offensive Tackle. Okung is a consensus Top 5 Draft Pick who plays left tackle. Why wouldn't we want him to be there so we have a chance of filling that hole? Please don't tell me that some of the other OT's in the draft are just as good or almost just as good because they're not.
We can get another draft pick by trading JC or we can trade a 2011 pick for a pick this year if someone good falls in the draft but we must have a top notch LT from somewhere to get the production we need on offense.
If Okung is gone at #4, then I agree that trading down might be a good thing to do but if he's there I believe we need to take him.
Okung isnt much better than the next level of tackles and if we trade down, we could concievably get two of them. this is a ridiculously deep draft and we have a ton of needs. drafting okung would only fill one of them.
SFREDSKIN
04-07-2010, 05:35 PM
Okung isnt much better than the next level of tackles and if we trade down, we could concievably get two of them. this is a ridiculously deep draft and we have a ton of needs. drafting okung would only fill one of them.
That's what I've been saying, trade down if possible and get 2 OL.
Defensewins
04-07-2010, 06:00 PM
Okung isnt much better than the next level of tackles and if we trade down, we could concievably get two of them. this is a ridiculously deep draft and we have a ton of needs. drafting okung would only fill one of them.
That is not 100% true. Obviously we have to wait a couple of years to know for sure, but I am hearing more and more that in terms of a true Left Tackle that can handle the NFL speed rushers only Okung has the talent to step in right away and do ok.
Bulaga and th eothers are getting talked about as an immediate starters at Right Tackle, but they will have trouble like Robert Gallery did at Left Tackle against the speed rushers.
Either way it is all opinions at this point.
internetcareer
04-07-2010, 06:05 PM
The only thing missing from the title of this story is the word "ANYMORE".
The Skins are not shopping Albert "ANYMORE"...since the Eagles did not want to swap and nobody else wanted a 100 million dollar attitude. With that said, it is a relief that Big Al will be dominating one side of the line because he is a monster and it takes 2 linemen to come close to stopping him. Orakpo will benefit lining up beside Big Al.
CRedskinsRule
04-07-2010, 06:16 PM
So I know this person who's as good a source on Haynesworth as Schefter is on Shanahan and this person says "Albert's very excited about McNabb and the rest of the additions the team has made. He's talking regularly with coach Haslett and is excited about the upcoming season."
so take that for what you will
Clearly, your source isn't keeping up with the outstanding insiders at the Post:
Redskins Insider - Analysis: Shanahan in test of wills with Haynesworth (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/analysis-shanahan-in-test-of-w.html?wprss=redskinsinsider)
And earlier Wednesday, it was learned Haynesworth probably will not attend Washington's first voluntary minicamp that begins April 16.
Haynesworth plans to participate in all mandatory offseason team events under the terms of the collective bargaining agreement, two people with knowledge of the situation said. But Haynesworth would not face disciplinary action for skipping non-mandatory activities at the park.
It's one thing for Haynesworth to train on his own, which irritated Shanahan. But for Haynesworth, the Redskins' highest-paid player and arguably their most talented, to be elsewhere during a minicamp, well, I imagine that would simply be unacceptable to Shanahan.
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Haynesworth has made it clear he does not want to play the nose. Shanahan has made it clear Haynesworth is the Redskins' starting nose tackle. In holding firm with Haynesworth, Shanahan is sending a clear message that he sets the agenda for the Redskins -- not the players. Even a player as talented as Haynesworth.
I thought it was said that AH did plan on being at the April minicamp?
Defensewins
04-07-2010, 06:17 PM
You must not have read my post. Getting rid of Haynesworth is not the bonus. Ensuring Suh or McCoy fell to us, enabling us to trade down out of th e#4 pick is the bonus.
If Haynesworth leaves, we'd definitely have a hole... but i'd argue we have bigger holes all across our offensive line (and potentially at WR) that need to be filled. We've made an investment in acquiring Donovan McNabb. we need to do everything we can to make that investment pay off.
When Shanahan became our HC and Haslett became our DC, we signaled that we would no longer be a defense-first team. That sign was confirmed when we traded for McNabb: Offense will be the strength of this team.
I do not agree with creating a problem to solve another. If we lose Haynesworth and opposing teams gash us for 5 yards a run next year, our season will be over. No playoffs. Stopping the run is rule #1 to any defense.
On your rather large assumption that we have signaled offense over defense is a stretch. You can believe what you want. But nobody at Redskins park has said we are an offensive team first over our defense. Our offense has sucked for a while and it is where we need the most help. Our failure over the last 10 years to address our O-line adequately in the draft did not mean we were a defense first team. We invested several good draft picks on WR's, QB's that did not pan out, rather than picking O-Lineman. There is a long list of offensive players we drafted that have field and/or are no longer on team.
internetcareer
04-07-2010, 06:23 PM
There is no way around it: Big Al is a troubled individual. He has anger and ego issues and only his immense talent has saved him He is on his own mission and all the skins can do is plug him into defense end and say "KILL"..."DESTROY". Its all he's good for.
CRedskinsRule
04-07-2010, 06:25 PM
There is no way around it: Big Al is a troubled individual. He has anger and ego issues and only his immense talent has saved him He is on his own mission and all the skins can do is plug him into defense end and say "KILL"..."DESTROY". Its all he's good for.
I for one am ok with that.