Schefter: "Skins NOT shopping Big Al"

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celts32
04-07-2010, 12:11 PM
I think trading AH is an opportunity for the Redskins to finally use their financial resources to good use. I know 20 mil is a lot of money to eat but with that money paid he becomes a very marketable player. The Redskins have a draft pick shortage and could basically purchase a draft pick or two by trading big Al. I know he can be dominant at times when he wants to be but does anyone actually believe he is going to be here long term with Shanny and Allen anyway? It's pretty clear to me that they will eventually tire of him and end up cutting him for nothing in a year or 2 so why not get value for him now.

SmootSmack
04-07-2010, 12:12 PM
I never meant to imply that Schefter would be lying. Shanahan lies to Schefter to further his agenda. Schefter reports it. I don't see how this is such a hard concept for some to understand. Cerrato and Zorn played things pretty straight and never really did anything to surprise anyone. Things have changed now that we have more experienced guys in their places. We can't take anything they say at face value. This is common in the NFL. Friday or Saturday, the Eagles let it be known that hey would not even consider trading McNabb within the division. On Sunday, he was a Redskin. I'd be shocked if Haynesworth is still on the team in May.

That's not how it works. It's just not

celts32
04-07-2010, 12:13 PM
I never meant to imply that Schefter would be lying. Shanahan lies to Schefter to further his agenda. Schefter reports it. I don't see how this is such a hard concept for some to understand. Cerrato and Zorn played things pretty straight and never really did anything to surprise anyone. Things have changed now that we have more experienced guys in their places. We can't take anything they say at face value. This is common in the NFL. Friday or Saturday, the Eagles let it be known that hey would not even consider trading McNabb within the division. On Sunday, he was a Redskin. I'd be shocked if Haynesworth is still on the team in May.

I agree with that.

SBXVII
04-07-2010, 12:15 PM
In regards to the info being put out to media sources.... I could have sworn M.Shanahan mentioned the JC was the QB of the Skins when asked about JC with in the month or two of taking over the team. I could be wrong but I could have sworn. In any event JC is not going to be the QB of the Skins. Unless of course he's the #2 or #3 if he can't get himself traded.

BigHairedAristocrat
04-07-2010, 12:15 PM
That's not how it works. It's just not

- The Eagles told their sources when they reported they wouldnt ship McNabb to an NFCEast team and then a day later they sent him to us.
- Parcells told his outlets he wouldnt trade Jason Taylor and then did so.
- Cerrato told his outlets he was having no conversations with Taylor or his agent... while he was actually neck deep in negotiations to trade for Taylor.
- Just a few months ago, Schefter reported that Shanahan was not close to a deal with the skins and then a day later Shanahan become our head coach.

Those are just the examples I can think of off the top of my head. Coaches and GMs lie to the media every single day. When it comes to Shanahan, Schefter is the absolute last person in the world we should beleive at face value. Reid, JLC, and Clayton, and others all indicate they have sources saying Haynesworth is on the market. Schefter is the only source saying he's not, and his report is ambigous and includes unnecessary comments meant to make Haynesworth not want to be here. If you beleive Schefter, then you probably beleived that there were WMDs in Iraq... even when every "neutral" source said that there wasn't.

Monkeydad
04-07-2010, 12:18 PM
I don't know about this, but it seems the relationship between Haynesworth and FO is deteriorating fast according to Jason Reid:


Haynesworth to skip Redskins voluntary workouts, attend mandatory sessions

Veteran defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth plans to report to the Redskins' mandatory offseason workouts, but probably will not attend voluntary sessions, two people in the organization with knowledge of the situation said Wednesday.

Haynesworth informed the sources, who requested anonymity because of Haynesworth's poor relationship with the new front office and coaching staff, that he would return to Redskins Park for mandatory workouts under the terms of the league's collective bargaining agreement. Haynesworth, whom the Redskins have attempted to trade, also has privately told friends he does not want to become a distraction because of his impasse with coaches about their plans to use him as a nose tackle in the Redskins' new 3-4 defensive scheme.


This is not news or necessarily a problem. We've known for a while that he's using a personal trainer that helped get him to the Pro Bowl with TEN.

The fact he's even concerned about not causing distractions shows he DOES care about the team.


I see no issues here.

Redskins Insider - Haynesworth's workout regime (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/haynesworths-workout-regime.html?wprss=redskinsinsider)

Haynesworth, however, has not commented publicly on his situation since the end of last season. Before the workouts began, I wrote Haynesworth planned to be present on the first day, and he showed up to listen to Coach Mike Shanahan address the entire team for the first time.


Haynesworth also participated in other first-day activities. But Haynesworth, who is determined to have a big year in 2010, comitted to an individual workout regime with a trainer before the Redskins' plans were set, according to the people with knowledge of the situation.

Haynesworth is following an intense offseason workout program under the guidance of the same trainer who helped him reach all-pro status during the 2007-08 seasons.


Haynesworth showed respect to Shanahan by attending on the first day for something that is voluntary under the terms of the collective bargaining agreement.

Despite Shanahan's tough talk about players needing to show their commitment to the program if they want to be on the team, the reality is that didn't apply to Haynesworth. The Redskins will cut him a check for a guaranteed $21 million option bonus in April, and Haynesworth's 2010 and 2011 base salaries are guaranteed, too.


With the money Haynesworth is guaranteed, there's no way the Redskins would cut him for not reporting. Moreover, regardless if some in the main building believe Haynesworth has a bad attitude (and trust us, some do), the coaching staff knows they need the guy because he's one of few elite players on the roster.


Haynesworth met Shanahan halfway in appearing on the first day of the program. Perhaps Shanahan made a positive gesture in accepting Haynesworth won't be around all the time. That certainly not a perfect union -- but it's a start.

MTK
04-07-2010, 12:18 PM
In regards to the info being put out to media sources.... I could have sworn M.Shanahan mentioned the JC was the QB of the Skins when asked about JC with in the month or two of taking over the team. I could be wrong but I could have sworn. In any event JC is not going to be the QB of the Skins. Unless of course he's the #2 or #3 if he can't get himself traded.

Not sure what he said exactly but I do know he never said JC was his starter.

Pocket$ $traight
04-07-2010, 12:23 PM
Not sure what he said exactly but I do know he never said JC was his starter.

Hasn't "open competition" been the buzzwords since the Mastermind arrived?

MTK
04-07-2010, 12:28 PM
That's not how it works. It's just not

I'm just guessing here, but I would think if Schefter thought he was being fed inaccurate or deceitful info he wouldn't report it, and he would at least double and triple check the info before filing it.

I would like to believe the guy has some integrity, and his allegiance lies with ESPN first and foremost over personal relationships when it comes to reporting info.

CRedskinsRule
04-07-2010, 12:30 PM
The lesson to take (or retake) from that the media folks can be wrong.

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Unlike Wikipedia, disseminating information on twitter is dependent on the member doing the disseminating, and last time I checked, Schefter was as reliable a source as there is.

True, but a tweet is generally an immediate thought. No back checking or proofing of sources, unless the person posting it chooses to. It's just not the same as true "journalistic integrity" of old. Information flows far faster now, and sourcing of reports is much more tenuous.

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