The everything Gruden thread

Fire the coach after one year??? You want to know why the Redskins are a perpetual cluster fuck? It's because Dan Snyder is just like some of you guys. In a way, you both deserve each other.

I don't want him to be one and done. I want to see what he can do when he has legit weapons and depth at most positions.

Although if we could get a proven winner and a coach who KNOWS what type of atmosphere they're entering into once they set foot in Redskins Park and what they're working with, I would not be opposed to ousting him.

I always like your posts and generally agree with everything you say - But - we had Mike Shanahan, who was a proven winner, and who also knew what was going on in Redskins park. Shanahan said the same things about RG that Gruden is saying now. If Gruden is fired and RG3 survives, by next year, we will have seen that 3 Head Coaches benched RG3, has something like that ever happened before??

Revis just got beat like a rag doll by Jordy nelsen

As it is, no one who is qualified should want this job, and now you guys want to fire the 8th coach in 15 years. That does not make any sense.

Lauvao, Chester and Compton suck, a blocking TE is needed. Replacing this players on O will help. On D, Haslett, Meriweather, Clark, Riley, Jenkins, Golston, Bowen, Biggers, Porter have to go. Need some athletic LB's like Robinson and DL help.

Shanahan didn't do crap without Elway


I always like your posts and generally agree with everything you say - But - we had Mike Shanahan, who was a proven winner, and who also knew what was going on in Redskins park. Shanahan said the same things about RG that Gruden is saying now. If Gruden is fired and RG3 survives, by next year, we will have seen that 3 Head Coaches benched RG3, has something like that ever happened before??

I feel like Snyder has shown pretty remarkable patience with his coaches since Gibbs II, which shouldn't surprise because Gibbs probably mentored him. He gave Zorn a 2nd year, total mistake. He gave Shanahan way too long.

Real leaders make the best of what they have. Everybody knows this is a bad team, but we're seeing some of our best players regress under Gruden. There's no defending that fact.

Also curious how much I put Gruden had in the last off-season?? Roberts was a really stupid move, total waste of cap space and a position. We could have gotten the same, probably better results with Tana at that position and he was already on the roster for f sakes.

I appreciate everybody's viewpoint, when there's so much wrong on gameday it's hard to say what the most glaring problem is.

I've seen enough. He's not pro HC material and you can't tell me there won't be legit HC candidates available at seasons end. Things that tell me Gruden is a loser:
History. He had elite talent at many positions in Cincy and still ALWAYS lost the big game.
Leadership. He doesn't have any. You look for a well prepared and focused team, and hasn't mustered that in a single game this season.
More on leadership, he's completely failed handling the QB situation. You don't shit on the only QB to lead a team to the playoffs in almost 10 years, especially when the rest of your group is playing like garbage.
Individual player concerns. Trent Williams is a good example. He's fat slow and undisciplined under Gruden. That tells me he's not buying in, he went from a pro bowl LT to subpar in less than a season.
Playcalling and game decisions. Need I say more after today? It's worse than Zorn. Enough said.

Personally I'd like a really tough defense minded coach to come in as HC. It's time for a clean sweep of the coaching staff. I hope Snyder has already started the search.

Trent Williams has been playing hurt. He literally limped to the huddle after every play today. He held the guy he was matched up against because he was hurt. Trent did not have a good game overall and had a few bad plays

He was hurt in a game that means nothing he still went out and gave maximum effort. He was chasing the defender down the field after the turnover.

You are wrong about Williams.

Shanahan didn't do crap without Elway

I agree but the argument was that we needed a HC who was a winner and knew what he was getting into here. Regardless of John Elway or not, Shanahan does have those super bowl rings.

That's like saying Bill Belicheck isn't crap without Tom Brady. The future may show that, who can say...

I'm done even trying to defend my position on these issues...I'm going to respond with a number for today

6

It's a missing stat in the discussion about today's game it seems.