The everything Gruden thread

I don't think it was the time spent on commercials that Sharp was criticizing; it was his mentality. The mentality that he had already made it; he was a superstar. The branding of RGIII was more important then the development of RGIII.





For example this commercial.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxPQvc75UzI











They branded his recover from knee surgery.



I'm ALL IN for this year to be over.

I'm ALL IN for this year to be over.

Nah, you know you want more Redskins football. For us, it's like a crack cocaine addiction.

I don't think it was the time spent on commercials that Sharp was criticizing; it was his mentality. The mentality that he had already made it; he was a superstar. The branding of RGIII was more important then the development of RGIII.

For example this commercial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxPQvc75UzI



They branded his recover from knee surgery.

You put that well and I understand the point. But it is the mentality which is the problem, the commercials are just outer symptoms. The mentality would be a problem even if he had done no commercials and thought the same thoughts.

Thus the problem with Robert is deeper than just his time investment in commercials, as some have implied. The time investment itself is minimal. It's not a scheduling problem, it's a psychological one.

You put that well and I understand the point. But it is the mentality which is the problem, the commercials are just outer symptoms. The mentality would be a problem even if he had done no commercials and thought the same thoughts.
Thus the problem with Robert is deeper than just his time investment in commercials, as some have implied. The time investment itself is minimal. It's not a scheduling problem, it's a psychological one.

Bingo.

I would also add the ends is a large metal trash receptable, a ton of garbage, gasoline and a match.

Well, the results show. Maybe if he had spent more time invested into football (video/etc) maybe he wouldn't be that far behind. I'm tired of people just brushing it off like it has nothing to do with it, but the reality of it is that it does. Shanny said he needed to spend more time on it, and Gruden even recently said he needed to work on his craft more.

Did you not read what Shannon Sharpe said? Just because you come into the job before everybody and leave after everybody doesn't mean jack shit. Unfortunately for QBs, they have to put in that much more effort and time to their crafts. If you aren't going to do it, chances are you aren't Young to make it either.

So, on one hand we got guys like you and a few other saying it's no big deal. On the other hand, we have 2 professional coaches saying it is a big deal. No offense, but I think I'll go with the professionals on this one.

My only question would be since Gruden has been brutally honest about RG3 game performance why didn't he bash his preparation or his work ethic if that was the case. I remember Gruden praising Robert's work ethic from day one. So since that is the case and should I be more concerned with RG3 lack of preparation to be ready or the fact that he was able to fool the head coach to believing that he was prepared?

Bingo.

I would also add the ends is a large metal trash receptable, a ton of garbage, gasoline and a match.

I believe that you and mooby have solved the team name issue. We can change the name to Washington Dumpster Fires. The flames logo will look cool.

First of all, I'm not defending RG3's performance and it is obvious there are issues with him.



That being said, if two coaches are telling me that their QB needs to work, and they can't get that said QB to put in the work. The problem lies within the coaches, just as much as it lies with the coaches. And let's not forget how much power Shanahan had in the organization.



I'm pretty positive that if you take away all the commercials and all the branding and all the media exposure, RG3 would still have the same problems that he has today.


Well how does it lie with the coaches if he doesnt put in the "extra" work. He got his ass benched. What else can they do?


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I don't think it was the time spent on commercials that Sharp was criticizing; it was his mentality. The mentality that he had already made it; he was a superstar. The branding of RGIII was more important then the development of RGIII.

For example this commercial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxPQvc75UzI



They branded his recover from knee surgery.


The hilarious part about that "all in for week one" commercial is that it didn't show the main aspect of being a QB. Film study. Too busy focused on the body, and neglected the main part.

I agree with the sentiment though because I said exactly the same thing on the /r/Redskins subreddit. Robert starting acting like he was a superstar before he actually became one.

Well he did have a superstar rookie season, nobody was really complaining about the commercials back then and we were all eating it up. He definitely cut way back on that stuff since then to be fair.

Bingo.

I would also add the ends is a large metal trash receptable, a ton of garbage, gasoline and a match.

Lmfao