The everything Gruden thread


SolidSnake84
12-07-2014, 11:27 AM
Keep rolling in HC's every two years until he finds the right one is exactly what I think Snyder should do. If he hired the wrong man, the problem must be fixed. More years of the wrong man doesn't fix anything. What will fix it is hiring the right man. I would go no more than two years with any coach who has failed to significantly improve the team during that time. Three more years of misery with a failed HC serves no purpose. I'd rather switch out some player personnel after two years than to endure a poor HC for five years.

We all know that the odds of Snyder hiring the right person are very low but if he keeps trying he might get lucky.

This is a good post - but my Question is - if Snyder absolutely insists that RG3 is the starter (which almost everything i've read seems to confirm), then no Coach is going to be able to win with the guy. How many years do we suck with RG3 before Snyder finally admits the whole trade was a bad idea? Somebody somewhere on here said we have to give him 8 years. That is wayy to long IMO - i see 8 years of losing seasons...

Chico23231
12-07-2014, 11:35 AM
Keep rolling in HC's every two years until he finds the right one is exactly what I think Snyder should do. If he hired the wrong man, the problem must be fixed. More years of the wrong man doesn't fix anything. What will fix it is hiring the right man. I would go no more than two years with any coach who has failed to significantly improve the team during that time. Three more years of misery with a failed HC serves no purpose. I'd rather switch out some player personnel after two years than to endure a poor HC for five years.

We all know that the odds of Snyder hiring the right person are very low but if he keeps trying he might get lucky.

Disagree especially based on the fact this is a rookie hc. But, as I said before, this organization is going nowhere until things are fixed in the front office

Rotten1980
12-07-2014, 11:41 AM
Keep rolling in HC's every two years until he finds the right one is exactly what I think Snyder should do. If he hired the wrong man, the problem must be fixed. More years of the wrong man doesn't fix anything. What will fix it is hiring the right man. I would go no more than two years with any coach who has failed to significantly improve the team during that time. Three more years of misery with a failed HC serves no purpose. I'd rather switch out some player personnel after two years than to endure a poor HC for five years.

We all know that the odds of Snyder hiring the right person are very low but if he keeps trying he might get lucky.

Nicely done.

saden1
12-07-2014, 12:13 PM
"It's a miserable position to be in," Gruden told reporters this week. He said that he needs to call better plays, but added that the players need to execute the plays that are called.
"They've got to go out and make some plays. We need leaders to stand up," he said.
When mistakes become so widespread, the coaching staff usually gets the blame. Many observers think Gruden, who took over a 3-13 team and faced a stiff learning curve in his first season as an NFL head coach, probably gets a mulligan.
But for his part, Gruden told the Washington Times: "I feel like I’ve failed, in a lot of different ways."
“When you have a lot of penalties, when you have a lot of turnovers, a lack of production in key situations — I think that’s a reflection of coaching, and I’m miserable in that regard," he said in the Times interview published Thursday.


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With comments like that he is trying to get fired and he has to get fired. That's not refreshing or reassuring shit he is spewing. I told you guy this mother fcker wasn't up to the task.

DYoungJelly
12-07-2014, 12:21 PM
Keep rolling in HC's every two years until he finds the right one is exactly what I think Snyder should do. If he hired the wrong man, the problem must be fixed. More years of the wrong man doesn't fix anything. What will fix it is hiring the right man. I would go no more than two years with any coach who has failed to significantly improve the team during that time. Three more years of misery with a failed HC serves no purpose. I'd rather switch out some player personnel after two years than to endure a poor HC for five years.

We all know that the odds of Snyder hiring the right person are very low but if he keeps trying he might get lucky.

Assuming you bring in coaches who have a different philosophy, how long does it take to effectively switch out player personnel?

By switching out so frequently would we be scrambling for offseason signings and settling for less than ideal free agents?

Would our cap be all screwed up in a couple of years switching if we switch back and forth?

Would we have any consistency (like the damn Cowboys) through the draft?
Can our FO switch out personnel effectively in two years?

Hog1
12-07-2014, 12:59 PM
Just heard Cooley on a pregame interview. According to him, naturally he still has many friends on the team that talk to him straight. He stated the team is totally behind Jay, that they love the direction he is trying to take the team. They love his honesty and leadership. They believe he CAN get it done....
Love to hear this, especially under the circumstances we are operating.

SmootSmack
12-07-2014, 01:39 PM
Out of curiosity, who was Gruden's first choice?

Buddy Cianci Junior High

or maybe it was the Titans. I forget

Lotus
12-07-2014, 01:52 PM
Buddy Cianci Junior High

or maybe it was the Titans. I forget

It reflects poorly on us that he'd rather go to the Titans than us.

In other news, the notion that Jake Locker will wear the b&g next year has gained traction, at least in my head.

SmootSmack
12-07-2014, 02:30 PM
It reflects poorly on us that he'd rather go to the Titans than us.

In other news, the notion that Jake Locker will wear the b&g next year has gained traction, at least in my head.

I don't think so. He and his wife have a strong connection the state. He likes the south, and it's just more his speed.

It was less about the organization, more about everything else surrounding it.

Lotus
12-07-2014, 02:57 PM
I don't think so. He and his wife have a strong connection the state. He likes the south, and it's just more his speed.

It was less about the organization, more about everything else surrounding it.

Well, ok, fair enough.

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