The everything Gruden thread

If for some reason the Redskins were to trade RGIII, I would
Reach out to Chicago and ask for Kyle Long in return, Cutler is done there.

@AdamSchefter: There's a "real chance" Robert Griffin III will be Washington's starting QB before this season is over, per source.

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I want him to succeed so that trade wasn't a huge waste. Gruden needs to show me something that he can tailor an offense to Griffins skills while developing his pocket skills
Gruden touted himself as a quarterback guy. I need to see it. Griffin has been terrible. Cousins has been banished. Now Colt is supposed to give me hope?
Snyder deserves some blame. But give him credit where its due: he has tried different ideas. Given his coaches anything they ask for. He does meddle. I dont know.... maybe fire everyone, gut the roster, and bring in a GM to call ALL the shots.
sorry. Ranting here..

Good read and I agree.

I hate to say this, but Gruden's first year is reminding me a lot of McDaniels first year in Denver, when he went in and drove Cutler out of town and ended up making a mess. I know it is not the same exact situation, but I think they are somewhat similar.

Yeah it appears we might be heading that way.

I hate to say this, but Gruden's first year is reminding me a lot of McDaniels first year in Denver, when he went in and drove Cutler out of town and ended up making a mess. I know it is not the same exact situation, but I think they are somewhat similar.

You make a very good, if tragic, point.

I hate to say this, but Gruden's first year is reminding me a lot of McDaniels first year in Denver, when he went in and drove Cutler out of town and ended up making a mess. I know it is not the same exact situation, but I think they are somewhat similar.

Very true. I think this speaks to the point that being a rookie HC can be extremely tough...I would say both are trying to impose change the wrong way. Everyone in a leadership role once they chose to take on that responsibilty wants to put there stamp on the position and create a vision. This isnt anything new. Probably hasnt gone about it the best way.

But the struggles and the frustration in implementing these changes speaks more to the disfunction of the franchise. Folks, we see it time and time again with Dan Snyder and his Lackies who run the team. They seem to make it impossible to get everyone on the same page and feel the need to do stupid shit like hire coaches and retain coaches even before the HC is chosen. Its a way to keep them in control, by keeping people in "their" corner.

This is what we call a flawed management model. Built on distrust and fear of not being able to control certain things and creates multiple voices...some which shouldnt be allowed to speak at all.

This is not a HC coach problem, Redskins have a flawed organization model.

The metaphor for this model would be an image of a large amount waste, within a oversized green metallic bin, ablaze, with black smoke rising

I hate to say this, but Gruden's first year is reminding me a lot of McDaniels first year in Denver, when he went in and drove Cutler out of town and ended up making a mess. I know it is not the same exact situation, but I think they are somewhat similar.

Cutler was already established. He was a lot more highly regarded ( at that time) around the NFL as a professional QB than RG3 is. McDaniels really didn't have a good enough reason to run off Cutler.

Right now, Gruden has legitimate reasons to move on. He's obviously no longer interested in developing a drama queen that's a project. He may have signed on for it, but things have obviously changed.

Cutler was already established. He was a lot more highly regarded ( at that time) around the NFL as a professional QB than RG3 is. McDaniels really didn't have a good enough reason to run off Cutler.

Right now, Gruden has legitimate reasons to move on. He's obviously no longer interested in developing a drama queen that's a project. He may have signed on for it, but things have obviously changed.

My problem with Gruden is that it seems like he didn't even try or more like he didn't want to try to develop Griffin. I'm talking about the beginning of the year when we didn't have much drama going on and we didn't have the cloud of a losing season.

I do think that it is time for everyone to move on. But I see a lot of things in Gruden that concerns me moving forward with or without RG3.

The metaphor for this model would be an image of a large amount waste, within a oversized green metallic bin, ablaze, with black smoke rising

http://www.sundriesshack.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/I-See-What-You-Did-There-Fry1.jpg

http://tech.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/dumpster_fire.jpg

I think this is a passive agressive remark in regards to how we feel Gruden can't be judged on his first year alone.

I think it is just a stupid remark