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GridIron26 02-22-2019, 11:44 AM I like this thread.
First of all, if I were GM, I would sit down with Gruden to go over all possible options. Based on what we have learned about Gruden's belief in Colt McCoy, I think we would be content with Colt McCoy as starter, and maybe Josh Johnson only if Gruden believes he is best back-up option for Redskins. If not, then we will go after whoever Gruden wants to be the back-up QB. I think it's pointless for us to go after any free agent QB to be our starter because he is likely not going to be our future QB. Instead, we should focus on resigning (and extending) our key players and strengthening the team for future.
If Gruden and our scouts really like a QB from the draft, then we should draft him if we get the opportunity. If we draft a rookie in 1st round, let it be open competition between Colt and the rookie. Whoever wins the competition gets to lead the team for the season.
skinsfaninok 02-22-2019, 11:49 AM Some of you guys have WAY too much faith in Colt Mccoy, he can never ever stay healthy because he's fragile as fuck and he isn't any good to begin with. Saying CM is the QB1 for 2019 might as well say we are tanking 3-13.
GridIron26 02-22-2019, 12:02 PM Some of you guys have WAY too much faith in Colt Mccoy, he can never ever stay healthy because he's fragile as fuck and he isn't any good to begin with. Saying CM is the QB1 for 2019 might as well say we are tanking 3-13.
I don't think (and never believed) Colt can carry Redskins to Super Bowl. I chose Colt only because of the position Redskins is in - there isn't much Redskins can do about it except to trade up to draft Murray or Haskins, and that is not ideal strategy. I really believe there is no point for us to sign a free agent QB to be starter for Redskins because he is not likely going to be our future QB.
Chico23231 02-22-2019, 12:28 PM Kind of like shooting short range with a shotgun loaded with buckshot over a snub nosed .38. You are more likely to hit something. If the two guys this year look like duds that 3-13 will afford you a do over the following year. The QB position is the hardest to evaluate, history proves that. Often a projected good draft for QBs goes bust and a projected poor one turns out a handful of franchise QBs. The 2016 class was projected as weak, but out of the top 5 QBs picked 3 are franchise QBs that made Pro Bowls. Even the best at the draft fail picking QBs. Bill Walsh considered a QB genius, who selected Joe Montana in the 3rd round also has a first round pick of Jim Druckenmiller on his resume. Montana was considered the GOAT until recently surpassed by Tom Brady and Drunckenmiller probably has one of the worst career passer ratings of all time for anyone who threw at least 50 passes.
ok get it...still I wouldn't tho.
Back to Colt...I rather have Colt than pay a Dalton, Keenum, Tannehill. Simply too much money for similar output. But Colt is extremely injury prone...that's a big problem (I guess I don't need to state to Skins fans, injuries are a big problem)
Schneed10 02-22-2019, 12:30 PM Some of you guys have WAY too much faith in Colt Mccoy, he can never ever stay healthy because he's fragile as fuck and he isn't any good to begin with. Saying CM is the QB1 for 2019 might as well say we are tanking 3-13.
The concern with Colt is definitely injury history so you have to backstop him with other options, which exactly what all of us are saying.
He did some good things when he came in for Alex against the Texans, almost brought us back from a big hole. Then had a 3-INT stinker against Dallas the next week. Then got hurt.
I don't agree that he can't play decent football - I do agree that you can't count on him for 16 games, hence the need for a backup plan.
But if 3-13 this year means we preserve the long term cap flexibility, then I'll live with it. My main point is I don't want to see us do anything that compromises our cap flexibility because in that case you wouldn't be able to find a coach on earth that would want this job.
skinsfan69 02-22-2019, 12:31 PM Some of you guys have WAY too much faith in Colt Mccoy, he can never ever stay healthy because he's fragile as fuck and he isn't any good to begin with. Saying CM is the QB1 for 2019 might as well say we are tanking 3-13.
Hate to say it but this would be the best thing. 3-13. That would mean Gruden is gone and Bruce is right behind him.
We're not going anywhere w/ Colt. We weren't going anywhere w/ Smith. We need a drafted stud who can make the players around him better.
Buffalo Bob 02-22-2019, 12:49 PM ok get it...still I wouldn't tho.
Back to Colt...I rather have Colt than pay a Dalton, Keenum, Tannehill. Simply too much money for similar output. But Colt is extremely injury prone...that's a big problem (I guess I don't need to state to Skins fans, injuries are a big problem)
Definitely agree there. Even though the three you mention are considered in the bottom 3rd of QBs it will still take $10mil+ a year to sign them. For that you would probably get 1-2 more wins at best over a Colt McCoy, definitely not worth it. With a Keenum you would be spending around $40 mil total a year on the QB position and be lucky to win 6 games. Even the Redskin front office isn't inept enough to make that move.
skinsfaninok 02-22-2019, 12:57 PM The newest "trend" seems to be building a team around the rookie QB deal, Seattle ,Philly and LAR all did recently with huge success. The only problem is , our cap situation sucks for this season.
Colt, Johnson, and hopefully a first rd QB depending on how the draft falls.
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Buffalo Bob 02-22-2019, 01:55 PM The newest "trend" seems to be building a team around the rookie QB deal, Seattle ,Philly and LAR all did recently with huge success. The only problem is , our cap situation sucks for this season.
That and do you have confidence in the front office and coaching staff to draft and develop a franchise type QB? The past history isn't a good one. That is why I say they may have to use multiple picks in back to back years to land one.
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