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skinsfaninok 03-02-2020, 01:12 PM I don't get all the hype for him.
He is only 6'1 and he is hurt all the time. And he's a damn lefty (sorry mom).
Dwayne Haskins is going to be a much better pro QB.
From a college standpoint he's much a more better prospect than DH
skinsnut 03-02-2020, 01:34 PM I haven't heard anyone talk about another option.
Draft Tua, keep both Tua and Haskins on the roster. Let the best man win. Half of QBs drafted are busts. This way, statistically you guarantee a successful young qb. It's cost? 2 first rounds. If Chase young wasn't here, I think this would be considered. I hear about trading Haskins for a 2...why? He's better now with a year under his belt than out of college. You could hold both QBs for a full year and get ur money back. And if one gets hurt (Tua) you have Haskins too. I think 2 potential franchise QBs is better than 2 potential edge guys playing at the same time. 80 percent of the time a franchise qb beats 2 franchise edge guys. To have 2 QBs like this and keep both would be very unconventional but would give us the highest likelihood of success.
sdskinsfan2001 03-02-2020, 01:38 PM From a college standpoint he's much a more better prospect than DH
Why? Based on what?
Definitely not better size or arm.
skinsfaninok 03-02-2020, 01:48 PM Why? Based on what?
Definitely not better size or arm.
Accuracy, footwork , anticipation. He's been the real deal since HS, issue is health. I'd keep Haskins
I haven't heard anyone talk about another option.
Draft Tua, keep both Tua and Haskins on the roster. Let the best man win. Half of QBs drafted are busts. This way, statistically you guarantee a successful young qb. It's cost? 2 first rounds. If Chase young wasn't here, I think this would be considered. I hear about trading Haskins for a 2...why? He's better now with a year under his belt than out of college. You could hold both QBs for a full year and get ur money back. And if one gets hurt (Tua) you have Haskins too. I think 2 potential franchise QBs is better than 2 potential edge guys playing at the same time. 80 percent of the time a franchise qb beats 2 franchise edge guys. To have 2 QBs like this and keep both would be very unconventional but would give us the highest likelihood of success.
That's simply too much draft capital tied up in the QB spot, you can't take Tua #2 and bring him in to "compete". He's either your guy or it's Haskins.
skinsfaninok 03-02-2020, 01:56 PM That's simply too much draft capital tied up in the QB spot, you can't take Tua #2 and bring him in to "compete". He's either your guy or it's Haskins.
In todays NFL, This is correct. You can't allow a 1st rd QB to sit and wait anymore, It's unfair to their growth but its the nature of the beast. If RR wants Tua then I'm all in on Tua..
That said I think this Tua talk is just posturing and it's exactly what we should be doing right now. I don't think there's any serious intent on drafting him. Too much injury history there, Young is too good to pass by, and we've got Haskins who finished the season strong.
skinsnut 03-02-2020, 02:08 PM In todays NFL, This is correct. You can't allow a 1st rd QB to sit and wait anymore, It's unfair to their growth but its the nature of the beast. If RR wants Tua then I'm all in on Tua..
Hmm, what about too much draft capital on dline, or never use a #1 on a guard? For heaven's sake many wanted Haskins to sit on the bench year 1 anyways. Outside of last year, when was the last time the skins had the opportunity to take the #2 QB in the draft? RGIII? I say this should be an option as moving either of them will be easy. I could care less what is fair to a player. I'm concerned with what is best for the Team. Sonny vs Kilmer got us to our first Superbowl btw. If there are only 6 potential starting NFL QBs over 2 years and you can get 2 of them, why not? Otherwise let's wait another decade if we flipped the coin the wrong way. I say call both heads AND tails. Franchise QBs come only from the draft. We get one chance a decade. We now have 2 back to back. I say get em both. It is far more important to get Qb right than having an additional sack every 4 games. Let's guarantee success damnit!
sdskinsfan2001 03-02-2020, 02:38 PM Accuracy, footwork , anticipation. He's been the real deal since HS, issue is health. I'd keep Haskins
Haskins completed 70% of his passes on over 500 attempts at OSU. I know a lot were short screen type passes but you still have to be accurate to complete 70% of that many balls. I have better footwork than Haskins, I'll give Tua that. Hard to get a good feel on anticipation with only highlights. But based on Haskins stats at OSU, he would have to at least be solid at, especially with limited experience.
Some guys scouts, draftniks, and talking heads just want to love certain players. Tua is one of those guys imo. Yes he is good, but not better at all if maybe marginally better than Haskins who we already have.
You already said you want to keep Haskins. This is just in general to all the talk and rumors flying around out there.
CrazyCanuck 03-02-2020, 05:48 PM That said I think this Tua talk is just posturing and it's exactly what we should be doing right now. I don't think there's any serious intent on drafting him. Too much injury history there, Young is too good to pass by, and we've got Haskins who finished the season strong.
Shhhhhhhhh don't let the Lions hear that!!
My dream is to pull off the reverse-Trubisky. Trade one slot down, grab some more picks and still walk away with Chase. :headbanger:
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