Taylor Effing Heinicke


irish
12-01-2021, 02:41 PM
Hes a good qb and a great player. I don't know how much of a difference it would make with a diff qb in there, but he's playing better than a very large chunk of the rest of the qbs in the league right now. That has GOT to count for something.

ESPN ranks him 20 out of 36.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32071373/nfl-quarterback-rankings-2021-how-all-32-teams-qbs-stack-weekly-big-takeaways

irish
12-01-2021, 02:49 PM
Yeah I still don't get the Foles thing, TH's story is still being written. As for RW, he's got a no trade clause. He's not coming here. Last we knew his agent leaked that he would only approve a deal to go to the Cowboys, Bears, Saints, and Raiders.

He would for the right offer/deal. Especially if WFT keeps playing well. He's a waaaaay better version of TH and would excel in this system.

Looks like the Eagles are interested in him now.

Three of those teams don't make sense anymore: Dallas, LV, & Chicago.

SunnySide
12-01-2021, 02:51 PM
Id put TH at 20 or so … which isn’t a knock on the guy. Amazing story that is still being written. He’s certainly playing like a starting QB the past 3 games. He’s doing things now that he wasn’t doing before the bye. He’s running plays and the playbook.

Before he could have good stats for a game or two but it wasn’t a sustainable style and was reliant on him being off schedule every snap.

I’m becoming a TH fan .. not a believer he can be a trusted starter yet but he is getting his chance and it’s just a great fucking story.

MTK
12-01-2021, 03:04 PM
20/36 sounds right for him. TH is giving us what we thought RF would give us and at a cheaper price. And he still has some upside.

Chief X_Phackter
12-01-2021, 03:07 PM
I'm rooting for the guy. It would be nice if he was the next Brett Favre, and he's here long term, but we have a long way to go before that is determined. Dude has 11 total starts. There are bound to be some more stinkers on his horizon. Hopefully the D continues to improve so when he has one, it's not an automatic loss.

For right now I'd settle for a TH that just continues to improve and make good decisions - see how far this thing can go this year.

irish
12-01-2021, 03:09 PM
20/36 sounds right for him. TH is giving us what we thought RF would give us and at a cheaper price. And he still has some upside.

Rivera was counting on much much more from RF than he's getting from TH.

https://washingtonfootballwire.usatoday.com/2021/06/24/where-does-ryan-fitzpatrick-rank-in-pffs-quarterback-rankings-entering-2021-washington-football-team-taylor-heinicke/

MTK
12-01-2021, 03:20 PM
Rivera was counting on much much more from RF than he's getting from TH.

https://washingtonfootballwire.usatoday.com/2021/06/24/where-does-ryan-fitzpatrick-rank-in-pffs-quarterback-rankings-entering-2021-washington-football-team-taylor-heinicke/

Do you really think Ron thought he was getting a top 5 QB in RF??

Per the article PFF ranked RF #19 coming into this year, that's more like what Ron thought he was getting.

SunnySide
12-01-2021, 03:35 PM
I think RR and Turner were looking for a game managing qb who can throw the ball to Gibson or Thomas on designed plays PLUS the ability to hit on the occassional long shot.

Stretching the field and not letting D only defend the first 20 yards from LOS was a big talking point coming into this season.

Heinike was hitting those seams to Thomas for good through air yards plays and I hope we can get that going. Effective when we need 15

irish
12-01-2021, 03:42 PM
Do you really think Ron thought he was getting a top 5 QB in RF??

Per the article PFF ranked RF #19 coming into this year, that's more like what Ron thought he was getting.

No. I think RR thought he was getting a dynamic QB who seemed to be getting better and could provide WFT with a deep threat QB that they haven't, and still don't have.

Don't get me wrong, I like TH and what he's doing now but the notion that WFT has somehow found its QB of the future is IMO ridiculous.

Chief X_Phackter
12-01-2021, 05:00 PM
No. I think RR thought he was getting a dynamic QB who seemed to be getting better and could provide WFT with a deep threat QB that they haven't, and still don't have.

Don't get me wrong, I like TH and what he's doing now but the notion that WFT has somehow found its QB of the future is IMO ridiculous.

It might be equally as ridiculous to say they haven't. We just haven't seen enough.

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