Stafford in WFT Plans? He’s Available

I dont think our D is no. 2, Id say we are top 10 or so though.

But if we are downgrading things bc of back up QBs ... then this team played 17 games and won 7 of them with back up QBs so that should count as an upgrade to our future predictions. Haskins/Allen/Smith/Heinike = gave us maybe 2 games collectively of average/competent QB play.

back up Qb play has to go both ways here.

I'm not going to argue that. WFT played basically the whole season with QBs that aren't starting caliber. I'm just saying the win total and the defensive ranking are both very much bolstered because of their soft as hell schedule. When they played good, healthy teams the results spoke for themselves.

You can't just say we're set at QB based on 5 quarters from Heinicke. If all else fails and he ends up the starter by default so be it. But you have to take a shot at a guy like Stafford.

Ron knows that or else he would just come out and say Taylor and Kyle will compete

I'm not going to argue that. WFT played basically the whole season with QBs that aren't starting caliber. I'm just saying the win total and the defensive ranking are both very much bolstered because of their soft as hell schedule. When they played good, healthy teams the results spoke for themselves.

Id add players playing above expectations in the secondary. but that part always gets me. I think if they got challenged more deep down field .. they would have been exposed. On the flip side, teams didnt gameplan to attack our secondary deep bc of our front 4.

Did our secondary get lucky this year ... or .. was this evidence of the mantra "the best passing defense is a good pass rush".

Cant speak for anyone else but Im not all in on Stafford. talk and thoughts are focused on Stafford bc its a Stafford thread.



We dont know what our true QB options will be for a few more months. its all just fan speculation at this point.



The only thing I do know is that I want an upgrade at QB. Either this year or next year. Whose available and what will it cost etc?... I would more likelyl than not give up the no. 19 and a 3rd for Stafford.



Worst case scenario we roll with Allen/Heinike and some other similar QB, Im fine with that. It means we were able to add a Waddle or some LT or LB at no. 19. But then 2022 becomes all about finding that winner Qb who we can hand the keys off to and he can play at a top 15 QB level right away.

My question is about your line "2022 then becomes all about finding that winner QB". What makes you think 2022 will hold better options for finding that QB? If we bolster our defense and our team does about the same or slightly better we would be right back at this point, no real draft option because we aren't in the top 10, but now we don't necessarily have 2!! elite or damn near elite QB's wanting out of their current team.

This seems like the perfect storm to get a medium to long term answer at QB, then if we don't find that LB leader in late rounds this year go all in on a stud LB in 2022. I don't see any logic in letting this team flounder without a solution at QB this year in the hopes of finding the solution in 2022.

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I'm tired of losing games due to bad QB play, also it's been 30 damn years since this team went to the SB.

My question is about your line "2022 then becomes all about finding that winner QB". What makes you think 2022 will hold better options for finding that QB? If we bolster our defense and our team does about the same or slightly better we would be right back at this point, no real draft option because we aren't in the top 10, but now we don't necessarily have 2!! elite or damn near elite QB's wanting out of their current team.

This seems like the perfect storm to get a medium to long term answer at QB, then if we don't find that LB leader in late rounds this year go all in on a stud LB in 2022. I don't see any logic in letting this team flounder without a solution at QB this year in the hopes of finding the solution in 2022.

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Im 100% with you on this. id prefer we answer the QB question this offseason. My point was .. if we do stand pat and just sign Fitz or ride with Allen/heinike in 2021, that makes 2022 a "must add legit QB" offseason. We cannot go into 2022 without a legit competent QB.

I dont know what 2022 holds (AAron perhaps?). This offseason seems as good as any in recent memory in terms of available franchise QBs.

trade for Stafford or Watson
FA - perhaps Dak or go poorman with Fitz

I feel like there is a surprise or two to drop in the next 2 months and we arent just limited to Stafford or a low end FA. Maybe Packs move Aaron a year early. Maybe Matt Ryan or Kirk Cousins or Carr or Goff become available.

not saying Id want a Carr or Ryan etc but I want to look at all the options. Currently I think Stafford for a 1st and 3rd is most realistic and interesting.

I think Rivera views program building and culture building as very much a psychological thing, he had the team buy in and they went from 3-13 to 7-9, overcoming a lot along the way to win the NFC East. He commented that he looks at the 2020 team very fondly because of what they overcame and thus he doesn't want to see the program's growth stall out. I think he will be looking to make a big move at QB to help the program take the next step.

Once that next step occurs in 2021, we then become a destination for players.

All this is just to say that those of you who think the time to make the big move for a QB is now, I think Rivera sees it the exact same way and I'd be absolutely shocked if it didn't happen.

Well, he did say in his introductory press conference that he's not interested in a 5-year rebuilding period. Maybe that means this is going to be an all-in type of offseason.

However, he also stated that his main goal is to build a consistent winner - and to win the SB. Maybe that means he won't go all in on one position (QB) if that puts the rest of the roster in jeopardy.

I dont think our D is no. 2, Id say we are top 10 or so though.

But if we are downgrading things bc of back up QBs ... then this team played 17 games and won 7 of them with back up QBs so that should count as an upgrade to our future predictions. Haskins/Allen/Smith/Heinike = gave us maybe 2 games collectively of average/competent QB play.

back up Qb play has to go both ways here.

They finished at number 2 in yards allowed

Miami traded RT and a 6th Rd pick for a 7th Rd pick, and the next year's 4th. That's not close to the compensation people on here are saying WFT should offer for Stafford.

I don't know who's better, probably Stafford, but it just depends on the weapons around them. Tennessee is pretty stacked with Derek Henry, Corey Davis, AJ Brown...

That they did, Corey Davis is also a FA right now, we have young talent in Gibson, and McLaurin, and Thomas who surprised everyone. Who is to say that you insert Stafford and he doesnt give you the same or better production than Tannehill is giving???