The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread

Huh????????????? Bad opponents??? You call Carolina, Dall, Atl and the Giants weak? Eagles won 6 straight and three straight on the road in the NFC East, plus a playoffs game. Sorry but in today's NFL that's pretty damn impressive to me. If I recall we did the same thing in 05 and you would have thought we won the SB. Give Garcia some credit. He's not McNabb but he's still an effective back-up and I'd love to have him on our team backing up Jason C.

I dont think anyone is denying him credit, but what people are trying to say is that he did not perform at an extraordinary level. He is a decent QB that was on a good team at a good time.

It wasnt like he was passing 300 yards a game and 3 Tds. Most of his stuff was short passes.

Huh????????????? Bad opponents??? You call Carolina, Dall, Atl and the Giants weak? Eagles won 6 straight and three straight on the road in the NFC East, plus a playoffs game. Sorry but in today's NFL that's pretty damn impressive to me. If I recall we did the same thing in 05 and you would have thought we won the SB. Give Garcia some credit. He's not McNabb but he's still an effective back-up and I'd love to have him on our team backing up Jason C.Yes, those teams are weak, particuarly defensively. The toughest game they got during that 5 game streak was Washington.

Three straight road wins in the division is impressive anyway you split it, but the Eagles are a good team. Jeff Garcia played well, and that's his job.

I'd love to have Garcia backing up Campbell too. Unfortunately we already have left handed Garcia backing up Campbell, and we hate him.

I dont think anyone is denying him credit, but what people are trying to say is that he did not perform at an extraordinary level. He is a decent QB that was on a good team at a good time.

It wasnt like he was passing 300 yards a game and 3 Tds. Most of his stuff was short passes.Exactly. This is exactly what Brunell was doing on a team that wasn't anywhere as good as Philly.

Ok I kinda hopped onto this thread a bit late, but why would this happen seeing that Todd is Al's boy? He brought him here from KC and he knows the "system" so why would Al even let this happen. I was joking about the whole reach around thing but I think Al would fight hard against this.

Could anyone summarize how this could happen without removing/seriously upsetting Al?

In this scenario Brunell is still the backup QB because after the 3-6 weeks Campbell takes back his starting job.

Yes I realize that. But what happens if Brunell has to start for lets say 5 weeks. Can we win with him as our QB? Will our passing game be at an NFL level? I doubt it. Our defense would have to go back to 04-05 form and carry the team.

Yes I realize that. But what happens if Brunell has to start for lets say 5 weeks. Can we win with him as our QB? Will our passing game be at an NFL level? I doubt it. Our defense would have to go back to 04-05 form and carry the team.It was last year and the year before that...by every possible measure. Will we win those 5 games? Not if the defense plays like it did this year. Then again, if the defense doesn't play better, it doesn't matter who plays QB.

Ok I kinda hopped onto this thread a bit late, but why would this happen seeing that Todd is Al's boy? He brought him here from KC and he knows the "system" so why would Al even let this happen. I was joking about the whole reach around thing but I think Al would fight hard against this.

Could anyone summarize how this could happen without removing/seriously upsetting Al?I'm not in any way saying I expect it to happen or that it will happen. I'm just presenting it as a good idea and smart move for the future.

Schneed,

Thanks for correcting my numbers re: Carr's contract. I guess I didn't realize he got that much.

No prob, with the flurry of signings that goes on this time of year the numbers can get all jumbled around.

But GTripp, can you explain to me why signing a guy of Tim Rattay's quality will be more expensive next year than he would be right now?

He's a mediocre-at-best QB that's been ditched by two teams now. Carr got $3 million a year. If Rattay is worth $2.5 million a year now (which we can't afford in 07 by the way), then why would a guy like him be worth anything more than $2.8 or so next year?

Yes I realize that. But what happens if Brunell has to start for lets say 5 weeks. Can we win with him as our QB? Will our passing game be at an NFL level? I doubt it. Our defense would have to go back to 04-05 form and carry the team.

I think you missing the logic of the argument.

1)What he is saying is that both Brunell and Garcia aren't amazing QBs, agreed?

2)But Garcia led a much better Philly team on a playoff run. Brunell had a much worst Washington team, but he pulled off a similar run.

3)Therefore since both QBs are about the same in terms of age and type of QB(short passes/scrambling), Brunell is the better choice because he succeeded in a worst situation. Plus he knows our system better than Garcia does.

Also like others have said Ratty vs. Brunell for 2nd string seems like an interesting battle. Much better than Collins vs. Brunell.

Also why is this in the Draft section?