mredskins
07-13-2007, 04:30 PM
Elect Hillary and there will be no debate who the worst President is or was. BTW- If that happens you can look me up in Mexico or Canada because I will be moving.
The legacy of 'W'?mredskins 07-13-2007, 04:30 PM Elect Hillary and there will be no debate who the worst President is or was. BTW- If that happens you can look me up in Mexico or Canada because I will be moving. MTK 07-13-2007, 04:31 PM Elect Hillary and there will be no debate who the worst President is or was. BTW- If that happens you can look me up in Mexico or Canada because I will be moving. You might want to start packing LOL SmootSmack 07-13-2007, 04:31 PM Kind of busy now, so I don't have too much time to get into it. But when you look back on James Buchanan and his Presidency the similarities to W are quite striking. And JB is considered one of the worst Presidents ever. But, on the other hand, there are some similarities to guys like Truman. Now considered one of the best ever. The problem(s) with W are that a.) so much of what he has set out to do can't be judged until many years ahead when we see what unfolds with Iraq (because really that's what his leagacy will come down to) and b.) I think there's a notion that we must think he's bad even when he does good If I were to get all Lucy Van Pelt on him, I'd say that I don't know that Bush ever really wanted to be President and it tends to show sometimes. I think if you really dissect his presidency you'd see that he's not as in charge as say Clinton was, or even his dad. Jeb should have probably been the next Bush President, not W. mredskins 07-13-2007, 04:32 PM Matty are you a Dem? drew54 07-13-2007, 04:34 PM Bush has had some terrible things happen under his watch. 9/11, and Hurricanes Katrina and Rita are probably the worst. At the time of 9/11 I would say that 95% of America thought we needed to do something in order to prevent future attacks. Now weather you believe going to war with Afghanistan was the right answer or not, everyone wanted some kind of action taken. When it was, people were happy, and agreed with the move. As time has gone by, we are not seeing the results that we expected, and people are now against the idea. As for he Hurricanes, I think that he really dropped the ball on this situation. I know that millions of dollars were poured into helping, but under a non War time, the National Guard would have been down there cleaning up and helping restore order, and rebuild that place. The fact that the wars have been going on longer than we expected and the amount of effort with the hurricanes will sink Bush towards the bottom of the list. I however have only been alive for 4 presidents, and really I didn't start to care about politics until half way through Clinton. So in MY lifetime, I would say that he is the worst president. Worst of all time, I am not educated enough on the history of all of our presidents to make a rational comment. SmootSmack 07-13-2007, 04:36 PM W has put the Republican party in a huge bind. They are in for a world of hurt for at least the next 12 years. Maybe he's done them a favor. The far-left leaning Mondale and Dukakis opened the door for Bill Clinton and his relatively centrist policies to emerge. Maybe now there's a slight window of opportunity for the Republican party to find a candidate that will move the other way toward the center. Being a moderate Republican myself, I hope that's the case. MTK 07-13-2007, 04:36 PM Matty are you a Dem? I'm registered as independent saden1 07-13-2007, 04:43 PM I really don't get why people register as democrat or a republican. What's the point? You can't vote outside your party in the primaries in a number states now unless you're a registered as an independent. SmootSmack 07-13-2007, 04:46 PM I really don't get why people register as democrat or a republican. What's the point? You can't vote outside your party in the primaries in a number states now unless you're a registered as an independent. I'm not sure if the rule has change bu when I first registered to vote, I had to pick a party because otherwise I wouldn't be allowed to vote in my state's primaries. Otherwise, I would have registered as an Independent jsarno 07-13-2007, 04:47 PM I'm not looking to bash him, that's far too easy anyway. I'm going to take your word for that. I'm honestly looking for some debate here as to what his legacy will be, and what has he actually done a good job with? I'm sure there's gotta be something.[/QUOTE] How about these: 1- he has helped to lower interest rates to the best in history. 2- He has helped the economy to one of the most successful in history. 3- He has had VERY good unemployment rates all the while lowering taxes for everyone including the poor. 4- He has hit his objectives and stuck to his word, something we commonly criticize presidents for. (read my lips, no new taxes comes to mind) 5- His unwaivering support for the protection of this country. (Apparently he is a genius too cause he started this war all by himself, and he has fought this war all by himself. But that is sarcasm, not an actual good job) 6- He prevented Nuclear war between India and Pakistan. 7- Getting Lybia to give up its WMD programs and renounce terrorism. 8- Getting North Korea to shut down it's nuclear reactor. 9- Decapitating Al Quaeda's top leadership and preventing another massive attack on US soil. 10- Boosting Aid to Africa by three times the current aid...and vowed to double it again by 2010. I'll start with those. | |
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