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SFREDSKIN 09-21-2009, 01:04 PM In my opinion, Snyder should call Holmgren and see if he wants the HC job. He's familair with the offense and the terminology and could step right in and call plays. If Holmgren was agreeable, i'd offer to let Zorn stay on as a Offensive Coordinator/QB coach, but we need someone else, with experience in this system, calling plays. If Holmgren isnt intersted, then sticking with Zorn is the best option, because we dont have anything better in-house.
Do you think Holmgren would interested in coming to a team that fired his former Disciple? You might as well scratch him from the list.
T.O.Killa 09-21-2009, 01:05 PM I don't think Cowher would make much sense here anyway. What makes sense is to bring in someone with a WC background to make for a smooth transition. Holmgren, Shanahan, or even Gruden. I wouldn't argue with any of those 3.
You are always the voice of reason, and this post sounds to me like you have already given up on Zorn. Maybe, I am taking it out of context, but if you feel this way, Zorn is in deep trouble. I thought there were some questionable calls, but I did not realize how mad everyone was. I hope that everyone is wrong, because I am sick of this team starting over.
SmootSmack 09-21-2009, 01:14 PM Maybe so, my problem at this point is that this season is basically Campbells make or break, so throwing another coordinator at the problem just seems doomed to failure. Basically, I am "content" with letting JZ/Campbell sail down this sea together, either they make it work, or we say sayonara. That way no coach we may bring in feels like Danny gave JZ an unfair ride, and they are not tied to Campbell.
And if they do get it together, like Theissman and JG1 after the 0-5 start, then we will all be very happy fans.
Maybe what I should have said was "should it have been" Not "should it be" At this point it may be too late
CrazyCanuck 09-21-2009, 01:36 PM It's official in case it hasn't been posted yet:
RG Thomas out for season with torn right triceps - NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-redskins-thomas&prov=ap&type=lgns)
FYI Thomas will be a $6.1M deadcap in 2010 if/when he retires...
BigHairedAristocrat 09-21-2009, 01:59 PM Do you think Holmgren would interested in coming to a team that fired his former Disciple? You might as well scratch him from the list.
Do you think Holmgren has a high opinion of Zorn? I don't. Theres a reason he was only a QB coach in Seattle. Zorn simply isnt HC material.
At this point, each passing game (going in to last season) only confirms the theory that Zorn is simply in over his head. Unfortunately, its not matter of IF Zorn will lose the HC job, its a matter of WHEN. The majority of our offensive players - most of whom we are financially committed to for years to come - are simply getting too old to go through another rebuilding year in 2010. Whether Campbell is franchise QB material or not, i think he, and our entire offense absolutely NEED some system continuity if they are to have any chance of success in their careers. Unless we want to rebuild for 3-4 years, and waste the talent that has been assembled on both sides of the ball, we need to replace Zorn with a proven, successful, and experienced HC who will run a near-identical system and we must do it sooner rather than later.
IMO, the transition to Holgren would be near-seamless and the benefits (game-planning, game management, playcalling, etc.) would be instantaneous.
SBXVII 09-21-2009, 02:36 PM Jesus.. STFU about new coaches and QB's and try to act like loyal Redskin fans for once? Let's just see what ahppens this season, or atleast wait till we've played more then 2 games before we start calling for heads.
What the hell is wrong with some of you? lol
What's wrong with us? Where should I begin? I can remember when Zorn was named HC and we were told that he would be installing a high powered scoring offense and a fast moving offense. To tell you the truth I'm still waiting. Nothing has changed since Gibbs2 and it's probably due to the Skins having the same personell, and same coach's.
Some of us may be losing our minds due to yelling at the tv screen or radio for the last 2 yrs. To be truthfull we were told the same thing under Al Saunders. Did we see the "Fast moving, high scoring offense"? Yes we did, but it was New England that had it not the Skins.
Last yr our run game was the staple of the team and Zorn tried to incorporate more passing plays. Little changed. This yr after adding some 130 plays over the summer we keep seeing the same plays all day long with no production. I actually believe the passing game is now the staple of the team cause we have no run game. Can we recall Dorsey or Alridge? I ask cause did you see how the Giants spread themselves out trying to keep Dallas from running to the outside which in effect opened up the middle? Yet when they played us they lined up 8 in the box and all between the tackles. Why? cause we have no outside threat.
What is Hixon teaching the WR's? I watched the Giants and Dallas WR's make it look easy. Why? How? I think it's because they are using curl routes, come backs, and stop and goes. Our WR's simply run a route and hope they can get seperation. Other teams WR's seem to know where the 1st down marker is and actually go beyond it to catch the ball...ours stop 5 yrds short and don't get YAC.
SBXVII 09-21-2009, 02:45 PM Oh, and I failed to mention how JC seems to blast the ball to his WR's within 15 yrds of him. Over throws the long ball. and changes into the wrong play.
roth74va 09-21-2009, 02:47 PM Oh, and I failed to mention how JC seems to blast the ball to his WR's within 15 yrds of him. Over throws the long ball. and changes into the wrong play.
Such a hater.....who cares how hard the ball is thrown, if it hits your hands your gonna cry, right?
SBXVII 09-21-2009, 02:51 PM Such a hater.....who cares how hard the ball is thrown, if it hits your hands your gonna cry, right?
Yeah, Ok, Tell that to Sellers who had the ball blasted at him with in 10 yrds and watched the ball go through his hands. Might have been a TD, maybe not. ...but lets not put blame where blame is due and coddle the QB. Better yet lets enable him and tell him he's doing well and keep doing it, then blame Sellers for not making the catch.
Ruhskins 09-21-2009, 02:53 PM Yeah, Ok, Tell that to Sellers who had the ball blasted at him with in 10 yrds and watched the ball go through his hands. Might have been a TD, maybe not. ...but lets not put blame where blame is due and coddle the QB. Better yet lets enable him and tell him he's doing well and keep doing it, then blame Sellers for not making the catch.
Tell that to Sellers, I'm sure he would tell you otherwise.
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