Is anyone else just absolutely disgusted with DM5's play?

I dont find his level of play disgusting. It's not THAT bad....but i think as redskins fans, we have kind of gotten used to poor play at QB, except for in 05 with Brunell, and 07 with Collins..

I think Donovan is exactly what most people figured he would be on this team..a good leader who is able to still do some things, but is past his best and best used in a role where he starts for a year or 2 while another QB watches from the bench until he is ready..

I agree so if that's the case then you gotta wonder why they gave up the draft picks. Could've just kept JC, brought in Grossmam to compete and kept the picks. We'd probably have one less win.

Totally agree. I've said this before on here- one thing that Campbell has that McNabb doesn't is the ability to learn a system on the fly. McNabb has apparently really struggled to pick up what Kyle is putting down - so much so that both Shanahan's have been allegedly surprised and disappointed.

I don't think we'd be much better or much worse with Campbell and/or Grossman as a starter this season. And we'd still have two really important draft picks. I mean, McNabb has 15 picks to only 12 TDs, and a rating of 75.2 (3 points lower than JC's this season). Campbell's stats as a starter here were never that poor, and he learned a new system nearly every season. Just saying.

Totally agree. I've said this before on here- one thing that Campbell has that McNabb doesn't is the ability to learn a system on the fly. McNabb has apparently really struggled to pick up what Kyle is putting down - so much so that both Shanahan's have been allegedly surprised and disappointed.

I don't think we'd be much better or much worse with Campbell and/or Grossman as a starter this season. And we'd still have two really important draft picks. I mean, McNabb has 15 picks to only 12 TDs, and a rating of 75.2 (3 points lower than JC's this season). Campbell's stats as a starter here were never that poor, and he learned a new system nearly every season. Just saying.

I generally agree, however, the drama and angst that JC and the previous FO's had established here would have caused far more disruption. In fact, even though DM's play hasn't been stellar, I believe that attention is being more evenly focused, than if JC were here, and all the discussion revolved around his perceived deficiencies.

I hope we give DM another year to settle down, and more importantly build as best we can around him. Not that he will change who he is, but moreso he does not present a vivid reminder of the past malfeasance on the part of the FO.

I was pretty against DM when they brought him in, but not having the weekly JC bash/love threads has been one of the better parts of this season.

i think mcnabb is doing pretty well given the circumstances. after years and years of an anemic passing offense, we finally have a QB who is trying and capable of making the big pass play.

yeah i wish he was more accurate on throws, i wish the receivers and TEs caught the catchable balls, but McNabb has brought something to our offense we havent had in a very very longtime . . .an actual passing attack that stretches the field.

i blame most of our offensive woes and shortcomings on not being able to establish the run. like shanny said before the reg seasona nd after seemingly every loss, this offense is predicated on establishing the run. we did it in tenn, controlled the ball, won the game. we dont run the ball, control the clock . . .we get out of sync.

personally i like what mcnabb brings to the table, actual ability to pass down field. weve been looking for that for a 10 plus years now.

I dont find his level of play disgusting. It's not THAT bad....but i think as redskins fans, we have kind of gotten used to poor play at QB, except for in 05 with Brunell, and 07 with Collins..

I think Donovan is exactly what most people figured he would be on this team..a good leader who is able to still do some things, but is past his best and best used in a role where he starts for a year or 2 while another QB watches from the bench until he is ready..

Good post. That makes the most sense. What better position for a young QB to be in, A HOF QB to sit under, one that will only play for another year or two. But for this to work, we must secure a young future QB next season at the latest. I think we will see that.

I don't think Shanny is planning moment by moment, he has a plan. McNabb is just a bridge that not only gives us a chance to win now but the future as well.

Not disgusted with DM5. He's made some plays for us that others would not have made.

Still, I wonder when he will show up. Sometimes it is like the lights are on but no one is at home.

Maybe in his second year in DC he will be more mentally present and therefore more effective.

Our OL is crap.
Anything McNabb can do to stay upright and in possession of the ball after the snap is a bonus. If we had a + average OL then you could evaluate him.

:doh:

I believe he's played alot better since the benching, he moved the ball against the titans, the vikings, and giants we just started dropping balls. He's on pace for a career year in yards. He's gonna have a couple times a game he makes you scratch your head, but he is not the problem here.

Let's think realistically for a second. Jason Campbell was/is a talented player who has the physical abilities. Overall good guy and decent football IQ. If we had held on to Campbell this year, I wouldn't have been upset in the least.

However, the biggest knocks I could see on Jason Campbell, were the inability to be consistent with reading defenses, not taking a lot of chances down field (although that could have been more of a system thing,) and he's just not a leadership type of guy. Great guy though, team player, model citizen.... but I don't see him ever truly being a Warren Moon, Peyton Manning, or a Drew Brees. Definitely not a field general.

Donovan McNabb, on the other hand, has those leadership qualities. Mostly because he's had experience in the playoffs and the Super Bowl, but he's a proven winner. He also has a lot more confidence in his arm than what I saw of Campbell here. He takes more shots downfield (again, could be a system thing but anyway,) and for the most part, he's good at reading defenses and he makes more good decisions than bad.

Both QBs have faced similar situations. No offensive line, no running game, new systems, and a team that doesn't know how to win. The real deal will be comparing the two when the supporting casts are upgraded.

All in all, I still believe we upgraded by going with Donovan McNabb even though it doesn't appear so this season.

When it's all said and done maybe all we need to do is heed the advice of our owner and exhibit a little patience. This about a man who can tell you a thing or two about patience...........he he

Redskins' owner urges patience in trying season (http://network.yardbarker.com/author/article_external/3763929)