Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Dolphins)

Why do you say this? are you refering to coaches that might be available? or players that might be available? I guess your refering to the HC getting canned and MS trying to bring him here? but Houston is doing so well.... aren't they?I probably shouldn't speak for SS, but I think he's referring to Houston's success on offense with a committment to the run game being a potential indicment of KS's system/abilities.

Exactly right, we aren't running MS's system, KS is in control of the offense, just look at our run/pass numbers. I saw a couple of cuts early in the season and Bowen mentioned that cutting was a big part of the scheme....but I haven't seen much cutting which is a staple of the ZBS. Again this all falls on MS, if the system isn't effective or being run the way he wants, it's his responsibility to "coach up" the coaches or make changes.

I just don't think MS is doing much coaching period. Which is why we are not seeing the MS offensive staple. He might have wanted some run scheme's thrown into the mix but I'm guessing it's all KS.

I understand there needs to be a commitment to the run but really are the numbers really all that off? I think whats best is 50/50 run/pass but we tend to be around 60/40 pass/run which I don't think is really all that bad either. I think KS's issue with getting away from the run is it doesn't work once and he shifts to passes. Gibbs was run, run, pass, punt, then come back out and do it again because sooner or later the defense will tire out and by the 4th quarter big runs will be available. KS seems to get frustrated when the OL does not block for the run so he turns to the pass.

I'm not a fan of KS at all in fact I wish he would be gone asap but that's not happening

Why do you say this? are you refering to coaches that might be available? or players that might be available? I guess your refering to the HC getting canned and MS trying to bring him here? but Houston is doing so well.... aren't they?

Well let me preface by saying I'm not a huge Schaub fan, but if the Texans now falter with him out and miss the playoffs then Kubiak and co are likely gone. So yeah you're going to have coaches available that could shake up this staff. Not least of which is Rick Dennison.

So I guess we should hope for the Texans to start losing in order to get some position coaches here replaced. Lol.

My main concern is OL coach and MS getting the right coach in for his system. I really wish their old OL coach From Denver who went to the Texans could be healthy and work out their differences and be brought in.

So I guess we should hope for the Texans to start losing in order to get some position coaches here replaced. Lol.

My main concern is OL coach and MS getting the right coach in for his system. I really wish their old OL coach From Denver who went to the Texans could be healthy and work out their differences and be brought in.

I think you're thinking of Alex Gibbs, but in the early 2000s Rick Dennison was the OL coach under Mike Shanahan in Denver.

I don't know what to say....

It's blatently obvious DS won't be able to please all fans at all times. But I was pretty sure most fans after the Zorn failure pretty much wanted a proven HC (and MS is) and wanted "consistancy". Simply throwing everything away yet again after 2yrs (this offseason) or after 3yrs is not, I would guess to be, "consistancy." We need to keep a coaching staff longer then 2-3 yrs, allow them to get the types of players for their system on the team, and keep a QB in the same scheme longer then 2 yrs. Why is P.Manning, E.Manning, Breese, Brady, etc. etc. so succesfull? because they stayed in the same system for more then 2 yrs.

Brady won the Super Bowl in his first year as a starter, and Brees was awesome in his first year in New Orleans. Those guys are so successful, because they're really good.

But the Giants were smart for sticking with Coughlin through some tough years (he can thank the Skins for that). It paid off with a Super Bowl. We should ride it out and let this staff play out their contract.

This is a textbook exercise in excuse making.

When the Lions were 2-10 last year, I don't think a whole lot of people thought that the Lions weren't on the right track. I think Schwartz was starting to get some heat for short term results, but people knew the team was better and they knew that even with the QB out, the Lions were still making positive strides week to week.

I don't know if the Lions are going to make the playoffs in year three, but they already have results. Mike Shanahan has accomplished nothing here in a year and a half. And the idea that Detroit was in better shape three years ago than the Redskins were two years ago is just not accurate.

I think most NFL coaches would be doing a better job here. When you consider just how far the Redskins have fallen short of expectations, I think that's pretty difficult to argue against.

And you cannot deny that Schwartz has had more to work with in the form of a top-five, elite WR who was in place before he got there -- Shanahan didn't. Schwartz has more drafts and more high draft picks -- Shanahan hasn't. Schwartz has had three years to re-build his team -- Shanahan has had one and a half years. It's a complete fallacy to say that Shanahan has had the same tools and the same time that Jim Schwartz has had to rebuild their respective teams.

It is not difficult in the least to make the case that Detroit was on the right track with an emphasis on the draft, a competent general manager who manuevered to get high selections in the drafts to give Jim Schwartz a chance. Shanahan inherited a team that was built with aging, expensive free agents or outright castoffs that other teams had set out on the street corner.

You call it excuse-making, I call it laying out the facts.

I've gathered from this crowdsourcing exercise that the prevailing opinion on Shanahan is that two years of failure isn't enough evidence to overturn the decision to bring him on as head coach + personnel guy.

I haven't heard anyone defend the Redskins as being on the right track.

So basically this is the coaching equivalent of the minutes during a challenge in the NFL where everyone is pretty certain the call on the field wasn't right, but we have to determine whether or not the visual evidence is indisputable. I propose that indisputable evidence is not necessary to make the best possible decision for the game going forward. I also realize I am the minority opinion on that one.

Tripp, I think that your analogy to a challenge is a good one.

But I can't go to your dark side. Although I opposed the MS hire, I think we patiently have to let its process run its course. I can't say that your argument against this strategy is wrong. But it might be and I think we already bought a ticket to see it through to even an ugly end.

If you are right, we need to start a new coach search now, and this also scares me. I don't know that I trust Snyder to hire the right guy. So please tell me: who would Snyder hire as a coach to replace MS and turn things around?

Please notice that the question is not which coach you want. The question is which coach would Snyder realistically hire.

The major mistake that Shanny & Allen made was the McNabb trade. I can't help but think that move was made in part to show the owner that they were trying to win asap (not saying Snyder was "meddling" by any means).

Aside from that move, I give high marks to the personel moves of this regime. We can all point out the many names that came to camp, e.g. W. Parker, L. Johnson, D. Stallworth, but before you criticize those moves, realize they were low cost, low risk. I wanted a QB in last year's draft, but this year's class is looking good & I respect that Shanny didn't like any of the prospects from last draft.

That 3-1 start at the least showed that the team could win when healthy, albeit v. lesser teams for the most part. It raised expectations, but injuries reveal depth or lack thereof. This team is so far away from having quality depth. I don't think you can criticize them too much for that. It will take time, but we've already seen a commitment to the draft, something lacking for years here.