Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Dolphins)

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GTripp0012
11-16-2011, 12:16 AM
Unaccustomed as I am to being a voice of sweetness and light, I will say that I think the Redskins are on a much better path today than they were 2 years ago. They have not arrived at the end of the path (playoff contender on a regular basis) and the path is not level and paved every step of the way.

But this one is a better path than existed at the time Allen and Shanahan came to town. They conducted two drafts and two off-seasons. They did not hit home-runs with every draft pick, but they acquired good contributors in addition to two players who might turn out to be excellent (Williams and Kerrigan). Most importantly, they did not succumb to the temptation to spend a ton of money to bring in high-priced free agents whose major motivation in coming here was to get paid and sit on their fat wallets. That was the path this team was on for about 10 years prior to Allen/Shanahan...

Just because that is the way Allen/Shanahan behaved in their two off-seasons, I think the path they are on now is far better than the one the Skins were on 2 years ago.

Yes, the McNabb trade blew up in their face. However, that is not an indictment of the strategic path they have the team on. That is the failure of a tactical move they made. Another tactical failure was the blunderous way that Shanahan handled the "McNabb situation" last year. That could not have helped solidify the idea that "we are all in this together" among players in the locker room and it will take a bit of time to get that stink out of there.

The team has a lot of picks this year in the draft - - and might get more if they compensatory ones for losing free agents to other teams. Let me assume they have 10 picks in the draft as an example. If that is the case, then the real test of the path that the team is on will be to see how well the Redskins' scouting department can come up with good value picks in at least 7 of those 10 selections.

The path of "build through the draft and make judicious use of free agency" is a good path to follow. HOWEVER, it is the scouting department that has to deliver a solid draft board year after year in order for that path to get you to the playoffs.

To be polite, the Skins drafts of the years from about 2002 - 2008 left a whole lot to be desired. Was that the fault of the owner/GM - - or was it the scouting department? Starting two years ago, the owner butted out of the draft and the GM/coach are reputedly good at team building, so the spotlight now is on the scouts.I am indicting the strategic path they are on. The tactical moves have been hit and miss, like most teams. The Kerrigans, Banks, Hankersons, Roccas are all hits at this point. There has been about 15-20 personnel "misses" in the last year in a half, from retentions to releases, from start/sit decisions to acquisitions. That's been a significant part of the recent failures, but a stretch like that could happen to any team. The Patriots probably have 10+ personnel whiffs in the last two years.

The reasoning for taking the path we had has been incredibly suspect the whole way. There's never been a clear vision for success, which is why Mike Shanahan goes into pressers and says asinine things. The Redskins have managed to win more small battles under Allen/Shanahan than they did under Cerrato/Zorn (except on the field), but the war is still being fought against themselves. The Redskins can't get out of their way long enough to make positive progress.

Now, I am taking a wait and see approach as to what good has come out of the last two years. I don't think the Redskins need to clean house. I do think they need to change some or all of the on-field staff to improve the product. But I think Allen should stay, I think the top executives should stay, and I think Allen should promote or hire a chief player personnel VP to report directly to him that isn't on the coaching staff.

Shanahan's contract explicitly states that he's entitled to all the money in the deal and can walk if the Redskins do that, which is why he's the giant obstacle in this.

skinsfaninok
11-16-2011, 12:19 AM
Before all these injuries I'd argue this offense had some potential, and with a competent QB we could have been more competitive. Right now given all the injuries we'd probably be in a somewhat similar situation, but when I see Grossman throwing dumb pick after dumb pick or Beck dumping it off every play or getting sacked, I can't help but wonder.

In the end Shanahan is 0-3 on his QB choices here. Not good any way you look at it.

TH was on pace for a VERY good season.. Injuries happen it seems like other teams always bounce back and we always have that same excuse... Look at dallas Murray comes in and rolls over Felix..

SirClintonPortis
11-16-2011, 12:24 AM
TH was on pace for a VERY good season.. Injuries happen it seems like other teams always bounce back and we always have that same excuse... Look at dallas Murray comes in and rolls over Felix..

Well, if they had stuck with Rex and put Helu in right away..........we might have stole one of the two previous games. Instead, we were absolutely non-competitive with the Dormant Mormon.

The Goat
11-16-2011, 12:30 AM
This fire shanahan stuff is nonsense. Firing Shanahan would almost certainly involve Snyder bringing Cerrato back in some capacity. I think both Shanahans need to stay here atleast 3 years before firing is even in the discussion.

Why would firing the gruesome twosome Mike and Kyle = return of the cokehead? Allen doesn't have any particular connection to Mike so there's no reason for him to get the boot or resign.

skinsfaninok
11-16-2011, 12:34 AM
Yeah the beck move killed us and it seemed like the team didn't have much faith in the guy either

GTripp0012
11-16-2011, 12:36 AM
Just as far as unrestricted free agents go, Matt Hasselbeck, Shaun Hill, Alex Smith, Tarvaris Jackson, Drew Stanton, Byron Leftwich and Matt Moore have all been unrestricted free agents since Shanahan had the job here. Caleb Hanie was an RFA who could have been plucked from the Bears for zero compensation. A competitive trade offer could have plucked Matt Flynn from Green Bay. Kevin Kolb was terribly overpriced and would have been a bad short-term acquisition, but he was available.

No one on the above list contains magical qualities that would have fixed the 2011 season (whether they could have kept it from being derailed is another issue), but they are all better than John Beck, and about half of them are better than Rex Grossman.

I'm sympathetic to the idea that it didn't matter in the long run, but the Redskins could and should have done better on offensive personnel than they have. Whether they could have done so much better as to build an annual winner is debatable, I think. What's not debatable is that they couldn't have built an annual winner while taking the strategic path they did.

skinsfaninok
11-16-2011, 12:42 AM
I thought the skins made a mistake not going after flynn the guy is better than what WE have no you would think, heck he can't be worse

GTripp0012
11-16-2011, 12:45 AM
I forgot Vince Young as well.

With Vince Young, this team may still be very bad, but it would be excitingly bad. Or it might actually be a lot better. But that's not the point.

GTripp0012
11-16-2011, 01:12 AM
Maybe Shanahan feels that given his knowledge and experience with QBs he could save that for last while focusing on other areas that needed improvement first?His excuses for the recent losing streak is that the supporting cast is consistently failing his hand picked QBs.

Whether that's accurate or not (and since I'm not doing game reviews...), Shanahan is wrong one way or another. Either he failed to build even an adequate supporting cast that can support Rex Grossman or the next QB, or he's excusing poor quarterback play by miscasting the blame.

REDSKINS4ever
11-16-2011, 02:06 AM
Mike Shanahan is not a GM. He's a head coach. Bruce Allen should be the one in charge of retooling the roster. Allen would have never brought in Beck or Grossman.

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