Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Dolphins)

Dalton was picked up prior to our 2nd round pick. So you advocate picking Dalton or Ponder up at the #10 spot?...lol ..and you have the nerve to talk about Shanny not knowing what he's doing? Look in the mirror.



Also, I hope you realize that if we picked him, that means no Ryan Kerrigan or several of the other players currently on our roster. So you think having a rookie QB on a even shittier team was more valuable than increasing the overall quality of the team? Stop being a Dan Snyder.

Once you stop putting high expectations on this team, the better off you will be. You aren't going to have Shanny come out publicly and say our QBs suck even if he thinks so. He's also not going to say this team is trash and is in need of a major overhaul. The QB will come, give it time and take a deep breathe. This team wasn't going anywhere even with a rookie QB or vet.


First off bro I never said MS doesn't know what he's talking about in fact I trust him still to turn us around, All I said is he could have drafted a QB last spring thats all.. And yes we could have taken Dalton at 16 where we took RK, obviously that would have been worth the pick.. I love Kerrigan DGMW but we had chances at a QB.

Dalton was picked up prior to our 2nd round pick. So you advocate picking Dalton or Ponder up at the #10 spot?...lol ..and you have the nerve to talk about Shanny not knowing what he's doing? Look in the mirror.



Also, I hope you realize that if we picked him, that means no Ryan Kerrigan or several of the other players currently on our roster. So you think having a rookie QB on a even shittier team was more valuable than increasing the overall quality of the team? Stop being a Dan Snyder.

Once you stop putting high expectations on this team, the better off you will be. You aren't going to have Shanny come out publicly and say our QBs suck even if he thinks so. He's also not going to say this team is trash and is in need of a major overhaul. The QB will come, give it time and take a deep breathe. This team wasn't going anywhere even with a rookie QB or vet.

Please don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say that Shanny does not know what he is doing. All I said was that they were options.

Ponder was a clear option. You are right, taking him would have meant no Kerrigan. And I like Kerrigan. But he was an option.

And we could have traded back up for Dalton in the second round. We would not have had to take him at 10.

But again, these are just options we could have taken.

Thanks for the insults though.

I was never in favor of the McNabb trade so you are preaching to the choir, and I've stated that this has been Shanny's biggest mistake.

I think Smoot's reporting back then stated that VY wanted to go to Philly and the reports were even out back then prior to the open of free agency that he was heading there.

Can you imagine a oft injured Hasslebeck behind this OL?...lol THIRTY SIX YEARS OLD with a 8mil/year salary. No thanks, but I'll take Rex/Beck. It would be one thing if this team only lacked a QB but that isn't so.

Also to say those QBs would fair any better with this talent on offense is a huge stretch. If Tavaris Jackson couldn't get it done in Minnesota with Rice/Harvin/Peterson, what on earth makes you think he can do it with our scrubs?...LOL

I actually think our OL has not been that piss poor in blocking itself...except for Jamaal Brown and depth guys like Locklear and Hurt. Hasselbeck is probably slightly more mobile than Rex and makes better decisions. But I too mentioned to folks that his term and price would be a bit too much. Not only would we have to match his price and term, we'd probably have to pay half a million more or even more than that since Hasselbeck has been a buddy of Tennessee's OC since childhood.

I agree on TJax. He's a Rex with more mobility and stronger arm, basically.

Please don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say that Shanny does not know what he is doing. All I said was that they were options.

Ponder was a clear option. You are right, taking him would have meant no Kerrigan. And I like Kerrigan. But he was an option.

And we could have traded back up for Dalton in the second round. We would not have had to take him at 10.

But again, these are just options we could have taken.

Thanks for the insults though.


No joke I didn't know we were talking to Joe Gibbs here

Dalton was picked up prior to our 2nd round pick. So you advocate picking Dalton or Ponder up at the #10 spot?...lol ..and you have the nerve to talk about Shanny not knowing what he's doing? Look in the mirror.



Also, I hope you realize that if we picked him, that means no Ryan Kerrigan or several of the other players currently on our roster. So you think having a rookie QB on a even shittier team was more valuable than increasing the overall quality of the team? Stop being a Dan Snyder.

Once you stop putting high expectations on this team, the better off you will be. You aren't going to have Shanny come out publicly and say our QBs suck even if he thinks so. He's also not going to say this team is trash and is in need of a major overhaul. The QB will come, give it time and take a deep breathe. This team wasn't going anywhere even with a rookie QB or vet.

First off, I think you need to tone down the tude a little.

Everyone is just frustrated right now and looking for answers. As bad as last year was, we're looking at an even worse finish this year. When Shanahan signed on here, I doubt anyone was expecting we would lose more games than Zorn did in his 2 years, hell even more than Spurrier, and we'd be 2 years into this new regime with no long term answer at QB in place.

I think we have the right to express some concern with the way he's handled things. I'm as big of an optimist as you'll probably find here, but I'm really starting to wonder where this ship is heading.

Please don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say that Shanny does not know what he is doing. All I said was that they were options.

Ponder was a clear option. You are right, taking him would have meant no Kerrigan. And I like Kerrigan. But he was an option.

And we could have traded back up for Dalton in the second round. We would not have had to take him at 10.

But again, these are just options we could have taken.

Thanks for the insults though.

I haven't insulted you so stop playing the victim role. That statement was for anybody acting like Shanny has no idea what he's doing.

Ponder wasn't a "clear" option. He was a slated 2nd round talent, and it was widely seen as a reach by the Vikings to take him at the 12th spot.

You are grasping at straws just trying to tear down Shanny. Instead of being a hatter, how about you realize this isn't going to happen overnight. You don't grab a QB just for the sake of grabbing you. If the guy doesn't fit you system, you don't take him. If he's a 2nd round talent, you don't take him in the top 10. Those types of panic moves are what sinks franchises.

Which was worse last year? Offense or Defense? Defense. So what did we need to address that year? Defense. Which is worse this year? Offense. Guess which side we'll most likely address this upcoming draft.

I'm a impatient mofo, but some of you make me want to strangle you. You expect success overnight from a decade (and more) worth of mismanagement.

I actually think our OL has not been that piss poor in blocking itself...except for Jamaal Brown and depth guys like Locklear and Hurt. Hasselbeck is probably slightly more mobile than Rex and makes better decisions. But I too mentioned to folks that his term and price would be a bit too much. Not only would we have to match his price and term, we'd probably have to pay half a million more or even more than that since Hasselbeck has been a buddy of Tennessee's OC since childhood.

I agree on TJax. He's a Rex with more mobility and stronger arm, basically.


Our starting football team was a competitive team that could have easily been a 9-7 squad. That said, our depth sucks big time and it showed. Also, the number of injuries plays a huge factor in this as well. We don't have the type of QB to overcome the losses we have. Rex and Beck are limited big time and need all the help they can get.

First off, I think you need to tone down the tude a little.

Everyone is just frustrated right now and looking for answers. As bad as last year was, we're looking at an even worse finish this year. When Shanahan signed on here, I doubt anyone was expecting we would lose more games than Zorn did in his 2 years, hell even more than Spurrier, and we'd be 2 years into this new regime with no long term answer at QB in place.

I think we have the right to express some concern with the way he's handled things. I'm as big of an optimist as you'll probably find here, but I'm really starting to wonder where this ship is heading.


I'm not meaning to bring any sort of attitude, but I'm more annoyed with our fan base then I am our starting QBs. I apologize if you are all offended, but it gets old really.

Had the guy not built up our defense, and grabbed a rookie QB, we'd still be just as bad on offense and our defense would be even worse. At that point, I imagine most would be talking shit about Shanny and Haslett (see last year) ability to run a defense.

It's never ending really. The man is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. I take 0 satisfaction of seeing Beck getting buried in sacks or Rex throwing passes to the other team, but there is a brighter day on the horizon.

I haven't insulted you so stop playing the victim role. That statement was for anybody acting like Shanny has no idea what he's doing.

Ponder wasn't a "clear" option. He was a slated 2nd round talent, and it was widely seen as a reach by the Vikings to take him at the 12th spot.

You are grasping at straws just trying to tear down Shanny. Instead of being a hatter, how about you realize this isn't going to happen overnight. You don't grab a QB just for the sake of grabbing you. If the guy doesn't fit you system, you don't take him. If he's a 2nd round talent, you don't take him in the top 10. Those types of panic moves are what sinks franchises.

Which was worse last year? Offense or Defense? Defense. So what did we need to address that year? Defense. Which is worse this year? Offense. Guess which side we'll most likely address this upcoming draft.

I'm a impatient mofo, but some of you make me want to strangle you. You expect success overnight from a decade (and more) worth of mismanagement.

lol :doh:

Chillout NC. your a good guy, but you come across too brash and arrogant to say the least.

I haven't insulted you so stop playing the victim role. That statement was for anybody acting like Shanny has no idea what he's doing.

Ponder wasn't a "clear" option. He was a slated 2nd round talent, and it was widely seen as a reach by the Vikings to take him at the 12th spot.

You are grasping at straws just trying to tear down Shanny. Instead of being a hatter, how about you realize this isn't going to happen overnight. You don't grab a QB just for the sake of grabbing you. If the guy doesn't fit you system, you don't take him. If he's a 2nd round talent, you don't take him in the top 10. Those types of panic moves are what sinks franchises.

Which was worse last year? Offense or Defense? Defense. So what did we need to address that year? Defense. Which is worse this year? Offense. Guess which side we'll most likely address this upcoming draft.

I'm a impatient mofo, but some of you make me want to strangle you. You expect success overnight from a decade (and more) worth of mismanagement.
Disagree slightly here. We committed our top two picks to defense mainly because they were damn good prospects according to our scouts, not mainly because of the performance of D in the year prior. Identifying positions of need is good and all, but grading the prospects before taking them is absolutely necessary.