The everything Gruden thread

If I never hear the term dumpster fire again I'll be happy, that and 40 burger... where the F did that come from anyway?

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I really like Colt. Humble and mature. Call me a homer but I'm already hoping he earns the starting spot for years to come. So hard to find a franchise QB and we're due for some good fortune after so many gdamn disappointments.

If Colt becomes the guy, we can focus on other team weaknesses in FA/draft and be competitive at least next year.

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I really like Colt. Humble and mature. Call me a homer but I'm already hoping he earns the starting spot for years to come. So hard to find a franchise QB and we're due for some good fortune after so many gdamn disappointments.

If Colt becomes the guy, we can focus on other team weaknesses in FA/draft and be competitive at least next year.

My friend, Colt is not nor ever will be a franchise QB. One characteristic of a franchise QB is that he has to have an arm so strong that he can threaten the defense with a deep ball. He doesn't have to throw deep, he just has to have the threat. Without this threat, defenses cheat against the run and the short pass alike.

The Texas Noodle's arm doesn't threaten even my grandma.

My friend, Colt is not nor ever will be a franchise QB. One characteristic of a franchise QB is that he has to have an arm so strong that he can threaten the defense with a deep ball. He doesn't have to throw deep, he just has to have the threat. Without this threat, defenses cheat against the run and the short pass alike.

The Texas Noodle's arm doesn't threaten even my grandma.

I've seen several guys with average arms that were great QB's. Some are in the HOF. Not saying Colt is one of those guys cause he's not, but he has enough arm to get the job done.

My friend, Colt is not nor ever will be a franchise QB. One characteristic of a franchise QB is that he has to have an arm so strong that he can threaten the defense with a deep ball. He doesn't have to throw deep, he just has to have the threat. Without this threat, defenses cheat against the run and the short pass alike.

The Texas Noodle's arm doesn't threaten even my grandma.

Well sir, there's some wiggle in the noodle debate. P Manning doesn't have much of an arm these days, but accuracy and intelligence offsets the one weakness.

Maybe Colt can be a Chad Pennington type QB, perfect for a system with high accuracy and football IQ. Or maybe he needs to hit the weights lol.

Stop killing my optimism.ds

My friend, Colt is not nor ever will be a franchise QB. One characteristic of a franchise QB is that he has to have an arm so strong that he can threaten the defense with a deep ball. He doesn't have to throw deep, he just has to have the threat. Without this threat, defenses cheat against the run and the short pass alike.

The Texas Noodle's arm doesn't threaten even my grandma.

I don't know about the franchise QB part but I think you're bashing him just for the sake of bashing him and his arm isnt any where near as you describe it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfSlzVrVgh8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke2_hD_Ws6E

Well sir, there's some wiggle in the noodle debate. P Manning doesn't have much of an arm these days, but accuracy and intelligence offsets the one weakness.

Maybe Colt can be a Chad Pennington type QB, perfect for a system with high accuracy and football IQ. Or maybe he needs to hit the weights lol.

Stop killing my optimism.ds

I agree that Peyton's arm is not the strongest, but certainly you are not equating his arm with Colt's flimsy equipment.

And in my argument I was actually thinking about Pennington. He failed as a franchise QB and became a journeyman backup precisely because of his weak arm.

Here's some optimism: since even a blind squirrel finds a nut, I am hoping that we can be lucky at QB for once. Maybe we will bring in Bradford and he will change and become durable. Or maybe we'll bring in Locker and find that he has finally gotten his act together. Or maybe someone else - QB's are unpredictably released every year.

I've seen several guys with average arms that were great QB's. Some are in the HOF. Not saying Colt is one of those guys cause he's not, but he has enough arm to get the job done.

IMO McCoy does not have an average arm. McCoy's arm is so weak that it is sometimes painful to watch.

Name one HoF QB who had not just a weak arm, but an arm as weak as McCoy's wet paper towel of an arm.

I don't know about the franchise QB part but I think you're bashing him just for the sake of bashing him and his arm isnt any where near as you describe it.



I'm not bashing him to bash him. He's my favorite QB on our roster.

I think his lack of arm strength is obvious and so do several other Warpath members. Think what you will.

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