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Giantone 12-11-2019, 08:12 PM Yeah me too.
Something along the lines of...
"We refuse to acknowledge any evidence whatsoever as this is a sham trial. Shut this shit down boys! The Kin... I mean POTUS is allowed to do whatever he wants as it is always in the best interest of this country"
LOL,............wouldn't surprise me .Doesn't Justus Roberts preside over the trial?
mooby 12-11-2019, 09:23 PM Fully agree but let's be honest , no one was picking on trumps son......just the name trump gave him in pointing out trumps desire to be a king.
I'm gonna be honest, I literally have no idea what conversation Barron's name was injected into and unless it was a conversation involving things pedophiles like to do to kids I'm probably not going to care. Also, you really don't need to bring the origin of Barron's name into it when you can directly quote Trump expressing his love of dictators and leaders who have no intention of holding free elections.
Chico23231 12-12-2019, 06:41 AM Yup this is right, IG confirms Adam Schiff was full of shit:
https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/10/ig-report-confirms-schiff-fisa-memo-media-praised-was-riddled-with-lies/
Of course the media embraced its lies
Giantone 12-12-2019, 08:21 AM Yup this is right, IG confirms Adam Schiff was full of shit:
https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/10/ig-report-confirms-schiff-fisa-memo-media-praised-was-riddled-with-lies/
Of course the media embraced its lies
LOL, chico you bias is showing..................again.
Seems the report throws both parties" under the bus.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/inspector-general-michael-horowitz-testimony/2019/12/11/b6632b6c-1ba1-11ea-8d58-5ac3600967a1_story.html
Chico23231 12-12-2019, 08:47 AM LOL, chico you bias is showing..................again.
Seems the report throws both parties" under the bus.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/inspector-general-michael-horowitz-testimony/2019/12/11/b6632b6c-1ba1-11ea-8d58-5ac3600967a1_story.html
G1, what are you talking about? The article specifically calls out the competing narrative in the opposing memos...the narratives are OPPOSITE...look at the memos:
The Democratic minority on the committee, then led by Rep. Adam Schiff, put out a response memo with competing claims:
1.FBI and DOJ officials did not omit material information from the FISA warrant.
2.The DOJ “made only narrow use of information from Steele’s sources about Page’s specific activities in 2016.”
3.In subsequent FISA renewals, DOJ provided additional information that corroborated Steele’s reporting.
4.The Page FISA warrant allowed the FBI to collect “valuable intelligence.”
5.“Far from ‘omitting’ material facts about Steele, as the Majority claims, DOJ repeatedly informed the Court about Steele’s background, credibility, and potential bias.”
6.The FBI conducted a “rigorous process” to vet Steele’s allegations, and the Page FISA application explained the FBI’s reasonable basis for finding Steele credible.
7.Steele’s prior reporting was used in “criminal proceedings.”
Each of these claims were found by Horowitz to be false.
Horowitz found that FBI and DOJ officials did in fact omit critical material information from the FISA warrant, including several items exculpatory to Page. Material facts were not just omitted but willfully hidden through doctoring of evidence.
Giantone 12-12-2019, 09:02 AM G1, what are you talking about? The article specifically calls out the competing narrative in the opposing memos...the narratives are OPPOSITE...look at the memos:
The Democratic minority on the committee, then led by Rep. Adam Schiff, put out a response memo with competing claims:
1.FBI and DOJ officials did not omit material information from the FISA warrant.
2.The DOJ “made only narrow use of information from Steele’s sources about Page’s specific activities in 2016.”
3.In subsequent FISA renewals, DOJ provided additional information that corroborated Steele’s reporting.
4.The Page FISA warrant allowed the FBI to collect “valuable intelligence.”
5.“Far from ‘omitting’ material facts about Steele, as the Majority claims, DOJ repeatedly informed the Court about Steele’s background, credibility, and potential bias.”
6.The FBI conducted a “rigorous process” to vet Steele’s allegations, and the Page FISA application explained the FBI’s reasonable basis for finding Steele credible.
7.Steele’s prior reporting was used in “criminal proceedings.”
Each of these claims were found by Horowitz to be false.
Horowitz found that FBI and DOJ officials did in fact omit critical material information from the FISA warrant, including several items exculpatory to Page. Material facts were not just omitted but willfully hidden through doctoring of evidence.
Chico you're on a sinking ship.
Giantone 12-12-2019, 09:05 AM https://www.yahoo.com/news/laurence-tribe-gop-impeachment-trump-085137976.html
Harvard Law Professor Dismantles Key GOP Argument Against Impeachment Of Trump
Harvard constitutional law professor Laurence Tribe on Wednesday took apart a key Republican argument against the impeachment of President Donald Trump over the Ukraine scandal.
Tribe, appearing on MSNBC’s “All In with Chris Hayes” said some Republicans were “missing the point” by claiming abuse of power (one of two articles of impeachment that House Democrats have released against Trump, the other being obstruction of Congress) is “not a crime.”
“It is the highest crime against the Constitution,” said Tribe. “And in this case the impeachment articles are carefully written to show the aggregating circumstances.”
“This isn’t just using the president’s power to benefit himself,” Tribe added. “But it’s doing that in a way that endangers our national security and that corrupts the electoral process by inviting foreign involvement.”
Tribe, who advised the House Judiciary Committee on how to draft the articles of impeachment, earlier explained why the articles were “the classic high crimes and misdemeanors.”
He said:
Abuse of power is what the impeachment clause was all about. The idea of using the power of the presidency not to protect the nation but to benefit one’s self and especially one’s reelection. In fact, in the debates around the framing of the Constitution, the big question about the impeachment power was ‘do we really need it, or is it enough, because the president will have to stand for reelection if it’s going to be ahead of him?’ The answer to that was ‘what if he corrupts the election process? What if he uses his power to reframe the election so that he rigs the system? We can’t afford to wait.’ That was the whole reason not to wait for the quadrennial election to take place.
Tribe concluded by claiming that “as a historic matter, this is the clearest case we’ve ever seen in the use of the impeachment power.”
“Especially when you add the second article, which basically says that if the president will not in any way cooperate with the process” then “we really do have a president who is a dictator and if this isn’t impeachable, as many have said, then nothing is. That’s the theory of this case.”
Chico23231 12-12-2019, 09:20 AM Chico you're on a sinking ship.
Its not about sinking ship, its about leaders of Congress overseeing this process misleading the American public with a narrative which was not biased on facts. He was wrong on every account...that's a problem, BUT the bigger issue is then the media takes this information and spreads it as fact. That's the big issue.
Now take the Nunes memo...come to find out, his assertions were found to be correct BUT the media at the time criticizes it and claims its false. These outlets include the Washington Post, NYC, Politico, and then the super garbage sites like Slate and the intercept (these don't count as new orgs...lolol..only morons would go there for news)
Read the article I posted G1.
Giantone 12-12-2019, 10:46 AM Its not about sinking ship, its about leaders of Congress overseeing this process misleading the American public with a narrative which was not biased on facts. He was wrong on every account...that's a problem, BUT the bigger issue is then the media takes this information and spreads it as fact. That's the big issue.
Now take the Nunes memo...come to find out, his assertions were found to be correct BUT the media at the time criticizes it and claims its false. These outlets include the Washington Post, NYC, Politico, and then the super garbage sites like Slate and the intercept (these don't count as new orgs...lolol..only morons would go there for news)
Read the article I posted G1.
Your entire rant is BS you hate the media you jump on any ship in the storm that sees it your way which I kind of understandable to a point .To call the WP readers morons is just plain ignorant chico .trump has warped your mind . Let's talk about the IMPEACHMENT TRIAL of Donald trump. Let's talk about how the republicans are backing him no matter what ,that alone will kill the republican party.They look like fools now but the cult will take down the country in the process don't blame the press.Hell even the trump network FOX is turning on trump,.......go ahead and tell us what a piece of shit Chris Wallace is.
Chico23231 12-12-2019, 11:36 AM Calm down G1, I'm sorry this is happening too you.
But we should be holding the leaders of the impeachment process accountable to lying to the American public. The media, like we saw with the Russian/Obstruction Collusion Hoax and the Kavanagh Conformation Hoax spread lies and false narratives constantly to the American people...you understand this right? You understand you were lied too?
I found it eye-opening when the articles of impeachment were drawn up....what was left out? This was the biggest tell that once again we are chasing something that didn't happen. Ive waited for the facts and it looks like impeachment is just another phony bs story...much like Russian Collusion, much like Kavanagh conformation.
Now the IG report is confirming the missteps and is showing just how corrupt the Russian Collusion hoax started. Its really sad at this point
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