CRedskinsRule
01-31-2020, 11:54 AM
My prediction is the final vote will be 47 for removal, 53 against with 2 of each party voting opposite. I think Romney and Collins vote for removal while Munchin and Brown from Alabama vote for acquittal
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Giantone
01-31-2020, 04:01 PM
That's idiotic
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yes, trump is.
Giantone
01-31-2020, 04:01 PM
Trump has broken G1.
Add him to the list
.......and trump has made you his bitch.
Giantone
01-31-2020, 04:03 PM
Rumor is trump's defense team fired Dershowitz. LOL...........................he's been awol since his screwed up speech.
CRedskinsRule
01-31-2020, 04:06 PM
Rumor is trump's defense team fired Dershowitz. LOL...........................he's been awol since his screwed up speech.
He replied to questions yesterday.
CRedskinsRule
01-31-2020, 04:18 PM
yes, trump is.
I know you are being specious but to be clear I meant your statement, not you, and I meant the statement about Trump being a dictator, or monarch.
CRedskinsRule
01-31-2020, 06:11 PM
I will make a guarantee now. If the Republicans don't close this circus down before this weekend, there will be a "BOMBSHELL" leak every 24 hour cycle just like the Kavanaugh trial and all of it will be the Democrats favorite method unnamed and unverifiable sources.
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Giantone
01-31-2020, 07:10 PM
I know you are being specious but to be clear I meant your statement, not you, and I meant the statement about Trump being a dictator, or monarch.
Yes, trump admires Kim and Putin and wish's to be more like them .
CRedskinsRule
02-02-2020, 12:31 PM
Another article, by Turley, describing the real reason the Trump is still in office.
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/481015-how-the-house-lost-the-witness-battle-along-with-impeachment
This is not Monday morning quarterbacking. This very series of events was expressly laid out before the vote, and House Democrats made a decision to choose certain failure over completing their impeachment case. There was no reason to expect Senate Republicans to assist House managers in making their case, particularly in calling witnesses not subpoenaed by the House. Democrats had opposed any witnesses in the impeachment trial of President Clinton and voted as a bloc for a summary acquittal. There was no reason to expect Republicans to adopt an entirely different approach.
We will never know how this impeachment trial would have unfolded if the House had waited to secure additional testimony and court orders. One thing, however, is certain. The case against the president could only have become stronger. The vote for witnesses failed by one for a tie and by two for a majority. A more complete record could well have tipped the balance and certainly would have made the vote against witnesses more difficult for some senators. Instead, the House submitted an incomplete record and failed to subpoena important witnesses like Bolton, making it quite easy for the Senate to refuse to do what the House had never even tried.
If the Democrats in the House had pushed through and offered even a semi fair process, and they got a judge to order the release of documents or witness testimony to the House like in the Nixon case, I think it isn't a stretch to say they could have gotten Trump to step down vis a vis the Nixon precedent. But by rushing a slip shod case through and turning that task over to your opponent's control, the House ceded control and the result was predictable from the outset.
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Giantone
02-02-2020, 12:53 PM
Another article, by Turley, describing the real reason the Trump is still in office.
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/481015-how-the-house-lost-the-witness-battle-along-with-impeachment
If the Democrats in the House had pushed through and offered even a semi fair process, and they got a judge to order the release of documents or witness testimony to the House like in the Nixon case, I think it isn't a stretch to say they could have gotten Trump to step down vis a vis the Nixon precedent. But by rushing a slip shod case through and turning that task over to your opponent's control, the House ceded control and the result was predictable from the outset.
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Yup Monday morning QB alright. To sit there and say the Dems screwed up is pure spin . The senate was never going to find trump guilty Moscow Mitch said as much. To blame Dems is a cover up for the republicans.