Stafford in WFT Plans? He’s Available

Can Stafford be traded asap? Even if it isn't to us. This thread might get to 30 pages.

Can Stafford be traded asap? Even if it isn't to us. This thread might get to 30 pages.

They can agree but it cant be official

That they did, Corey Davis is also a FA right now, we have young talent in Gibson, and McLaurin, and Thomas who surprised everyone. Who is to say that you insert Stafford and he doesnt give you the same or better production than Tannehill is giving???

I'm sure Stafford's mere presence would help elevate the level of play of the entire offense - as is. However, they have to add a bonafide threat opposite McLaurin, another TE who can be a threat down the field, and depth everywhere. And that's just on offense.

I'm sure Stafford's mere presence would help elevate the level of play of the entire offense - as is. However, they have to add a bonafide threat opposite McLaurin, another TE who can be a threat down the field, and depth everywhere. And that's just on offense.

and that can be down via free agency and the rest of the draft

and that can be down via free agency and the rest of the draft


If it were only that easy...

Schneed estimated the cap space after retention of WFT Free Agents to be $36.6M

Stafford's cap hit next year would be about $20M (edited).

If he doesn't restructure to a friendlier cap number (why would he when there will be probably a dozen or more teams who want his services), then there's not much you will be able to do in free agency unless you decide not to retain some of the WFT free agents like Scherff, Darby, Moreau, Sims, Heinicke, etc.

Then say you offered the #19 pick, and one of the 3rd round draft picks (or maybe more depending on other bids and what you're willing to give away). Now you have six or less picks remaining - one each in rounds 2-7. You would have to absolutely hit it out of the park, getting a Kam Curl type player with every pick to fill the glaring holes (WR, TE, OL, LBx2, S, CB), and you would be unable to add any depth to the roster.

To me the scenario plays out like we might as well be the Detroit Lions, and if I'm Stafford it doesn't look all that appealing to me.

If it were only that easy...

Schneed estimated the cap space after retention of WFT Free Agents to be $36.6M

Stafford's cap hit next year is $33M.

If he doesn't restructure to a friendlier cap number (why would he when there will be probably a dozen or more teams who want his services), then there's not much you will be able to do in free agency unless you decide not to retain some of the WFT free agents like Scherff, Darby, Moreau, Sims, Heinicke, etc.

Then say you offered the #19 pick, and one of the 3rd round draft picks (or maybe more depending on other bids and what you're willing to give away). Now you have six or less picks remaining - one each in rounds 2-7. You would have to absolutely hit it out of the park, getting a Kam Curl type player with every pick to fill the glaring holes (WR, TE, OL, LBx2, S, CB), and you would be unable to add any depth to the roster.

To me the scenario plays out like we might as well be the Detroit Lions, and if I'm Stafford it doesn't look all that appealing to me.

I have some questions.

Does this account for the cap savings in letting Alex Smith go?

Where did you get the $33M cap figure for Stafford? Seems to me I read that it was in the low 20's.

I just haven't seen our cap situation portrayed as being in such a bad way elsewhere.

I have some questions.

Does this account for the cap savings in letting Alex Smith go?

Where did you get the $33M cap figure for Stafford? Seems to me I read that it was in the low 20's.

I just haven't seen our cap situation portrayed as being in such a bad way elsewhere.

Yes. http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=64800

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/detroit-lions/matthew-stafford-6078/

Yes. http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=64800

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/detroit-lions/matthew-stafford-6078/

I'm pretty sure that the $33M would be Detroit's cap hit if they kept Stafford. They would be hit with $19M dead cap if they trade him. The cash for this year ($20M) would be the new team's cap hit, as I understand it. That's what I've read elsewhere, but I'm certainly no cap guru.

I'm pretty sure that the $33M would be Detroit's cap hit if they kept Stafford. They would be hit with $19M dead cap if they trade him. The cash for this year ($20M) would be the new team's cap hit, as I understand it. That's what I've read elsewhere, but I'm certainly no cap guru.

Yeah, me either. Another article does say it's more like $20M for the new team.

So that would leave about $16M of cap space for 2021.

If it were only that easy...

Schneed estimated the cap space after retention of WFT Free Agents to be $36.6M

Stafford's cap hit next year would be about $20M (edited).

If he doesn't restructure to a friendlier cap number (why would he when there will be probably a dozen or more teams who want his services), then there's not much you will be able to do in free agency unless you decide not to retain some of the WFT free agents like Scherff, Darby, Moreau, Sims, Heinicke, etc.

Then say you offered the #19 pick, and one of the 3rd round draft picks (or maybe more depending on other bids and what you're willing to give away). Now you have six or less picks remaining - one each in rounds 2-7. You would have to absolutely hit it out of the park, getting a Kam Curl type player with every pick to fill the glaring holes (WR, TE, OL, LBx2, S, CB), and you would be unable to add any depth to the roster.

To me the scenario plays out like we might as well be the Detroit Lions, and if I'm Stafford it doesn't look all that appealing to me.

We aren't the Lions, we won the division with one of the worst offenses I have ever seen (We literally got to week 17 before getting ANY opening drive score)

Better QB play leads to more points which keeps the defense off the field which keeps them fresh, which leads to more wins. A first and 3rd if that is what it takes for Stafford, I am fine with it.

Also to point out we traded for Alex in 2018 when he was 34, and he had us leading the so called better division through 9 games before his injury and in that season our offense wasnt good either. If Stafford comes here he is instantly the best QB in the division and I am including Dak in that. We would be the favorite, and player on our team will be getting better as well. We have young talent but you cant just win with only young talent.

I just want to know if we dont trade for Stafford, Watson, or Rodgers who is our starting QB next season? And if someone says Marcus Mariotta we might as well go out there with Kyle Allen