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Joe Knows... 09-13-2005, 04:27 AM Well I have gone on record as saying I don't think last year was all Brunell's fault. And regardless of the fact that it was against 2nd stringers this preseason Brunell showed that he still makes good decisions and has some zip on his passes. I was happy to see that Brunell could still play this game and was pleased to see that we had a solid backup QB who could step in when called upon.
Well now he's been called upon and I'll be driving the Brunell Bandwagon with Matty riding shotgun. I'll be in a neighborhood near you next Tuesday morning to pick up the Redskins fans that want to get on board.
Oh, you didn't know? I made the wheels for that bandwagon and put a Big Block Engine in that baby! Move over, cus Coach Gibbs is in the driver seat! All you real fans better fasten your safety belts, because we're goin' 110 MPH and the next stop is Dallas! Final stop.... Detroit!
Joe Knows... 09-13-2005, 04:28 AM Really? He didn't mind Brunell serving up turnovers last season, and none were more costly than his turnovers against the Ravens, and I believe the Giants that led to 2 defensive TD's, which in turn we lost those games and those scores were the difference, and kept us out of the playoffs.
Those turn overs in the Giants game were because of Clinton Portis. He fumble 5 times and got benched for Ladell Betts afterwards.
Edit: Not to mention Ramsey comming in the Game and throwing a Pick the first time he got near the endzone. So he gave up at least 3 points right there.
Seeing that broke my heart because I was the biggest Ramsey supporter out there, and I WANTED him to start.
Now he got his shot and I didn't like what I saw.
Luxorreb 09-13-2005, 04:34 AM Brunell is not a castoff. He's an insurance policy that's being cashed in. WK 2 Dallas. If we are to have a chance at the Superbowl Brunell woulda had to have been involved at some point.
Joe Knows... please pick me up in the AM my man. I'm forever on the Redskins wagon!!! GO SKINS!!! In Gibbs We Trust!
That Guy 09-13-2005, 06:34 AM gibbs has a crippling fear of mistakes, and he hate when ramsey makes them, but he turns a blind eye when brunell cant throw at all and also makes mistakes (fumbles returned for TDs etc). Ramsey "isn't playing smart football" while brunell is "super super smart" and "really fighting his guts out."
we'll see how it goes...
DirtBagZ 09-13-2005, 06:44 AM gibbs has a crippling fear of mistakes, and he hate when ramsey makes them, but he turns a blind eye when brunell cant throw at all and also makes mistakes (fumbles returned for TDs etc). Ramsey "isn't playing smart football" while brunell is "super super smart" and "really fighting his guts out."
we'll see how it goes...
100% agreed, it is pretty sickening the two different standards of perfromance. I really don't see all of this 'zip' on the ball that Brunell throws. I wish the Skins the best and want them to win, but the realist in me is highly doubtful this will happen in Dallas with Brunell at the helm.
It will be interesting as the season progresses and if Gibbs ends up rotating QBs ala Steve Spurrier what the reaction will be in this town. Spurrier ends up getting maligned for doing this, but with St. Joe, thou shall not speak any evil.
As for the Brunell Bandwagon, I'll be real suprised if it even gets out of the driveway this upcoming Monday night game.
irish 09-13-2005, 07:14 AM About 4 weeks ago I said that Gibbs has no faith in PR and that MB would be starting game 4. Everybody on this site told me I did not understand about faith in a QB. They also said Gibbs would never pull PR by week 4. Looks like I was correct about the former and incorrect about the latter, my prediction was 2 weeks too late.
mheisig 09-13-2005, 08:15 AM Grrrrrr...
Rant On
I don't post alot but dammit I'm upset. I'm not so sure it's as important WHO we go with as just picking someone and sticking with it. Ramsey has had ONE game? ONE GAME?! I hardly find Brunell's 8/14 for 70yds a convincing relief performance. How is a quarterback supposed to have any ocnfidence whatsoever if everytime the slightest thing goes wrong he gets benched? I mean 6/11 for 105 and an INT isn't exactly stellar, but in that case half the QBs in the league should be benched.
This just makes me sick. Ya know I just moved from Maryland to Tennessee and was all in a panic that I can't get all the 'Skins games down here. Now I'm not so worried.
Rant Off
Of course I AM worried...been a 'Skins fan since I was a fetus. I guess I'm on the bandwagon one way or another. I do it reluctantly though.
mheisig 09-13-2005, 08:18 AM Wait let me clarfiy:
I'm on the Gibbs Bandwagon. The Brunell Bandwagon should not even exist, and I'll personally remove the lug nuts if anyone tries to get it going.
Brunell is an overpaid, washed-up old putz with a noodle for an arm and no real apparent emotion for the game. All I can figure is he must be a smooth talker or something to get Gibbs to like him.
Maybe he brings donuts every morning. Hell, for $43 million I'd be a brownnoser too...
Joe Knows... 09-13-2005, 08:23 AM mheisig, your metaphors give me a good much needed laugh. LOL.
You're funny.
SkinsRock 09-13-2005, 09:23 AM Ok, first and foremost, I am a Redskin fan, so I will root for them no matter who is starting and who is on the team. I also have faith in Joe Gibbs and his coaching staff.
I have always been a big Ramsey supporter, but he just does not seem to be able to improve his accuracy and stop turning the ball over. So I agree with Gibbs's decision. Brunell was good in preseason and yes it was against back-ups, but the last time I checked, QB accuracy and poise doesn't have anything to do with who the players on the defense are. He showed it big-time, and Ramsey, not as much...in year four, he still looks too much like a work-in-progress. I am disappointed that Patrick wasn't given more of a shot, but I agree that Brunell gives the Redskins the best chance to win now. Last year he was injured, and Gibbs should have pulled him earlier, at the very least to let him get healthy, but that is over with. Players (and teams) have bad years that they bounce back from. It happens every year. Hopefully Brunell, and the Redskins, can be one of those stories this year. I think they will.
As for the offense, it is better than last year overall. It is year two in the system and they have made adjustments to better fit the players they have. The line is vastly improved with Rabach and Jansen (even with no thumbs!). Portis has put on almost 20 lbs. to handle the load and seems determined to carry this offense. The new receivers have the speed and ability to get downfield, AND to get RAC yards after the 5-15 yard passes that Lav and Rod just couldn't get last year. Pretty much everyone agrees that Cooley will definitely improve on his very good rookie year (even the Skins-hating experts). So even if Brunell sucks just like last year, the rest of this team has the ability to overcome it....but I don't think he will.
It seems to me that Gibbs wants someone that can effectively run the offense for a year or two until he can get Campbell up to speed, and it appears the Brunell is more qualified and in a better position, career-wise, to do that. I wish Ramsey all the luck in the world, but it seems that his days as a Redskin are numbered, whether it is a trade this season, or being traded or released next offseason. By the way, remember that it was said that Snyder was very high on Ramsey and he was his pick? Who's in control now??? ;)
Hail to the Redskins!!!
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