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mheisig 10-29-2007, 09:15 AM Belichick did exactly what he should have done. When a team self-destucts on the field of battle the opposition has absolutely no obligation to slow down. If the Skins had an opportunity to do this it would have been the right thing to do as well, but I think we all know that's not how it would play out. Hence the difference between teams with a killer instinct and teams without one. Belichick is a guy I respected but never liked. After today I respect him a little more.
This isn't a "field of battle." It's a professional sporting event and has very little in common with an actual battlefield. Even if it were a field of battle it doesn't justify abusing the opposition once they've been soundly beaten. This isn't the Roman Empire, circa 70 A.D.
I agree with the "It's the Skins responsibility to stop the scoring" to a certain extent. Into the late third or even early fourth quarter and with a point differential of 30-40 points, yeah, the Skins take the blame.
But at a certain point it's a lot more akin to kicking a wounded dog than it is playing an opponent. Do you blame the dog for not "getting out of the way of the kicks to stop the pain?" Nobody is arguing that we were outplayed and outcoached in every facet of the game, but that doesn't excuse Belichick running up the score when there is obviously zero chance of a comeback.
Gregg Easterbrook sums it up perfectly in his Good vs. Evil (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/071023&sportCat=nfl) article. Well worth the read, and I'm with Gregg when I say it's obvious who I'll be pulling for on Nov. 4th.
BleedBurgundy 10-29-2007, 09:15 AM I can't believe there are (currently) 16 people who think the Patriots did not run up the score? What game were you clowns watching? And don't give me that whole "if you don't want us to score, then stop us" bullshit, either. There's class and then there's classless, this is most definitely the latter. I wore my Landry jersey to work today, just because I think true fans show their colors after a loss, especially a big loss like that. I have never gotten more support from fans of other teams who said things such as the Patriots were lucky we didn't go after Brady's legs. Obviously, that would be the antithesis of everything JG stands for, but there are teams that would have. 6 years ago, I felt bad for Boston and was happy when their teams started winning. Now, I'm getting the same feeling for them that I've had for Philadelphia and NY.
Skinner 10-29-2007, 09:18 AM Belichick is a fucking asshole with no respect.Yea I know we lost!,okay but he still pours it on! And im sick of hearing "aw quit crying this is the nfl" Well this isnt Madden, what does running up the score prove? Why the hell was Brady in in the 4th quarter? To get stats? I dont care what anybody else says, I hope it comes back and bites them in the ass.
Dlyne8r 10-29-2007, 09:23 AM God Bless you.
Bill did not run up the score. Its up to those guys on defense that get paid millions of dollars to not allow that to happen. I don't care if its 50-0 going into the 4th quarter. Tom Brady and the rest get paid millions of dollars to play. Their fans want to see them and deserve to see them play the whole game. When the QB change happened what did the skins do? Let the qb run in for a freaking score. What did the skins overpaid offense do jack shi*.
So, it was Tom Brady then that made the call to go for it on 4th down with the game already well in hand for the Pats?
Skinner 10-29-2007, 09:25 AM Belichick is a fucking asshole with no respect.Yea I know we lost!,okay but he still pours it on! And im sick of hearing "aw quit crying this is the nfl" Well this isnt Madden, what does running up the score prove? Why the hell was Brady in in the 4th quarter? To get stats? I dont care what anybody else says, I hope it comes back and bites them in the ass.
12thMan 10-29-2007, 09:25 AM This thread really has me fuming because this is part of the damn problem at Redskins Park and to a large degree, our fan base. Everyone wants to win a certain way or look a certain way while doing it. Give me break, will ya? When that helmet cracks into someone's chest on the other side of the ball, no one's going, "oh don't hit him so hard." I can barely articulate my frustration with this mindset. I guess I really don't see the classless nature in what went down yesterday.
irish 10-29-2007, 09:27 AM I can't believe there are (currently) 16 people who think the Patriots did not run up the score? What game were you clowns watching? And don't give me that whole "if you don't want us to score, then stop us" bullshit, either. There's class and then there's classless, this is most definitely the latter. I wore my Landry jersey to work today, just because I think true fans show their colors after a loss, especially a big loss like that. I have never gotten more support from fans of other teams who said things such as the Patriots were lucky we didn't go after Brady's legs. Obviously, that would be the antithesis of everything JG stands for, but there are teams that would have. 6 years ago, I felt bad for Boston and was happy when their teams started winning. Now, I'm getting the same feeling for them that I've had for Philadelphia and NY.
The Skins would have actually had to get close to Brady to get his legs.
Giantone 10-29-2007, 09:30 AM I picked the Skins and never imagine this would have happen .With that said These guys are all professionals and the fact is the back ups took advantage of their oppertunities,the back up QB scored ,there Defensive players were playing on O and they were scoring.How do you tell a back up not to play hard when he's playing for his job in the future,hell some of these guys might never see a pro game ever again..................you can't get mad at the other team just becuase your team let you down.Lets not forget that last time Bellicheck put in the back up QB and he threw a INT he was benched.......................so what would you have done?
ArtMonkDrillz 10-29-2007, 09:33 AM Alright, here's how I see it:
Late in the game brady dropped back to pass into the endzone with Daniels running towards him very fast. Brady was throwing again even though they had a really comfortable lead (around 40 points), but what if Daniels had been able to make the hit and he blew out brady's knee?
What would belichick's excuse have been if he lost his golden boy because he had him passing late in a blow out?
Would he have been able to justify it by saying that he needed to secure a win even though they were already ahead by something like 7 TDs and our offense was constantly moving backwards?
So, isn't it pretty classless to put your team in that sort of situation? Like others have said, NE is lucky our team isn't really dirty because if we were I'm sure we could have made them regret that brady was still in late in the game.
I remember last year or the year before I was watching a U of Alabama game (for some reason) on TV and even though they were ahead by a lot late in the game they were still throwing deep and their best WR ended up suffering a broken leg. I understand that in college you need the whole margin of victory thing, but still a kid broke his leg when he should have been on the bench. In the NFL you don't even have to worry about margin of victory so there is no excuse for having your star player in late in a blow out.
I just cant see how NE could have done it any differently. They went for it on 4th instead of kicking a FG. The FG would have been rubbing the Skins noses in it. At least the Skins had a chance to stop them on 4th and they couldnt.
I have no problem with any team scoring as much as they can. The only way to disrespect the game is to stop playing hard. You cant tell guys that want to get noticed or keep their jobs to stop playing.
A FG would have been worse than trying to score a TD??
Wow, what sort of insane, reverse logic is that?
The majority of the time in the NFL any team in that situation would kick the FG vs. going for it. It's 38-0, the game is comfortably in hand, you kick the FG.
The Patriots are on a mission to embarrass everyone they play, I guess because Belichick is himself embarrassed over the whole cheating scandal so this is his way of sticking it to the rest of the league. Hey, more power to them, but to me and many others it's a pretty shitty way to go about things. If the Redskins were doing that, I wouldn't be pleased at all.
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