saden1
10-29-2007, 11:47 AM
"I've been coaching too long," Belichick said. "I remember being on that side. When I was coaching defense it was my job to keep the score down, not theirs. When you're playing defense it's your job to stop them. It's not (the offense's) job to not score. It's like I tell the offense, what the (bleep) do you think I send you guys out there for? To punt? We have a punt team for that. That's not your job. Your job is to go out there and score points. If you come off the field and you haven't scored points you haven't done your job."
-Belichick
Wow, the guy has issues.
skinsnut68
10-29-2007, 11:48 AM
Belichick is scum. But what in hell is the point in complaining about it? Get it, guys: he likes it!!!! The Pats are wearing their black hats in public this season, and enjoying it! The Pats are making their statements on the field. Their opponents are gonna have to play mean to bring them down.
The Skins don't need to descend to his level of kicking a team when it's down (unless it's the Pats). But we don't need lovable losers, either.
Isn't it crazy that the Pats are the ones playing with a grudge? Why don't teams play with a grudge against THEM?
Dlyne8r
10-29-2007, 11:48 AM
Dude, if they are cheating/have cheated on their wives, they are not good people, they're scumbags.. Good fathers and outstanding citizens don't cheat on someone they've pledged their lives to and risk it all for 39 seconds of pleasure.. If their character isn't solid enough to resist a one night stand in Vegas then it's time to take a long look in the mirror.. Sorry for the morality check.. Now back to football..
Thank you. I couldn't have said it any better. Now, can someone lead me to an "eyewash" station? I feel dirty after reading that post. :vomit:
SC Skins Fan
10-29-2007, 11:50 AM
So at what point do we call off the dogs and lock down this thread? Seems like it is the same people going back and forth and I don't think we're going to get much further here. Hell, it's even devolved into some guy defending cheating on your wife in Vegas and then others pointing out why he is wrong. It's just gotten ridiculous. Like Matty said, either you get it or you don't. I'm shocked that some people don't understand the premise, but apparently that isn't going to change no matter how many times we knock our heads against the wall trying to explain.
skinsfan69
10-29-2007, 11:52 AM
Belichick gets under Godfrey's skin - NFL - NBCSports.com (http://www.nbcsports.com/portal/site/nbcsports/menuitem.6f806e473b4cb158fb00ec22493c2d04/?vgnextoid=03f04e2dff8e5110VgnVCM10000075c1d240RCR D&vgnextchannel=6f33d5e59df02110VgnVCM100000dc032c03 RCRD&vgnextfmt=default)
I'm going to send Mr. Godfrey some tissue paper so he can wipe the tears from his eyes. Give me a break.
SmootSmack
10-29-2007, 11:54 AM
Are you married skinsfan69?
ArtMonkDrillz
10-29-2007, 11:55 AM
I heard that belichick doesn't wash his hands after he goes to the bathroom and that he farts in public.
(there, that should end this thread)
Dlyne8r
10-29-2007, 11:55 AM
Belichick is scum. But what in hell is the point in complaining about it? Get it, guys: he likes it!!!! The Pats are wearing their black hats in public this season, and enjoying it! The Pats are making their statements on the field. Their opponents are gonna have to play mean to bring them down.
The Skins don't need to descend to his level of kicking a team when it's down (unless it's the Pats). But we don't need lovable losers, either.
Isn't it crazy that the Pats are the ones playing with a grudge? Why don't teams play with a grudge against THEM?
I think that is about to change. After yesterday's debacle, and after reading and listening to the media outcry over this issue, Brady and company had better look out. I think I'll purchase a Colt's jersey this week (sorry Baltimorians) and hope the Pats get the living crap kicked out of them.
irish
10-29-2007, 12:00 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself. Anyone who doesn't get this point probably won't ever get it. It's like arguing with a brick wall.
It's no surprise that these two are the ones sticking up for Belichick.
I'm not sticking up for BB. I'm sticking up for playing hard and playing to win until the game is over.
I think a big reason for a lot of people having problems with NE winning how they did is that they either grew up (or are raising kids) in this era of trophies for all and everyone is on the all star team. They think that winning is fine but really dropping the hammer on an opponent is just not right. I guess I'm just old school and think everyone should play as hard as they can all game long. I'd rather get crushed than think the other team eased up on me because they feel sorry for me. That was how me and my friends thought and played. I guess I'm in the minority now.
mheisig
10-29-2007, 12:00 PM
But here's my issue with this type of argument, Belichick isn't playing dirty ball, he's just outcoaching the opponent and his boys are out hustling and out thinking the other side. What's bad karma about that?
I'm sure if the someone runs up the score on N.E. this week or next, they have no problem with it.
I don't think anyone (at least not me) is arguing that we were outcoached and outplayed. They beat us in every last aspect of the game, no doubt about it. And it doesn't excuse our play either - we played like crap and we got beat soundly for it.
It think what people are complaining about is the play calling on the part of the Patriot's offense late in the game. I wouldn't expect the players to take it easy or just kneel down on every possession in the 4th quarter or anything like that. The playcalling from Belichick, however, was extremely aggressive , throwing it deep even when we were down 40+ points to 0.
I think his playcalling was obviously designed to keep racking up points as long as there was time on the clock. When the point differential gets to a certain level it's not about ensuring a win or going for the kill, it's about humiliating an opponent, which is exactly what Belichick was doing.
When the score is 40+ to nothing, throwing the ball deep to get a few more TDs has nothing to do with winning and everything to do with piling on the humiliation and stroking your own ego.
The players can't and shouldn't play less, but they're only going to run what the coach calls, which in Belichicks case is pass, pass, pass, run, run, pass, pass.
Fact of the matter is there is something of an informal agreement or etiquette in football that has lasted decades and he's breaking it, week in and week out. If you DO get up on an opponent by a ridiculous amount, have some class and play a touch more conservative and run the clock out. It's been understood and accepted for years, and Belichick is on a rampage of essentially mocking the entire system and tradition of class that has gone before him.
Tony Dungy's team is undefeated and they've been consistent contenders at the highest level, yet you don't find him or his people embroiled in this much scandal and hatred as you do Belichick and his gang.
As long as he's got the team to keep pounding people like this then there's nothing anyone can do. His legacy in the NFL, however, will most likely be one of victories tarnished buy cheating scandals, a dishonest personal and professional life, and generally being resented by pretty much everyone (except irish and skinsfan).