SmootSmack
08-28-2009, 12:14 PM
It was installed properly and the installation exceeded the minimum requirement. I'm not sure the burden is on Jerry to run down every new stadium owner and ask what issues they have had. If the burden lies anywhere it would be with the architect or the NFL.
Agreed. The only reason certain people here are blaming Jerry Jones and the Cowboys is because it's Jerry Jones and the Cowboys. Had this happened to us, people on Cowboys boards would be blaming Dan Snyder and the Redskins...just because
Monkeydad
08-28-2009, 12:17 PM
Buster, lets say you're building a house. In your neighborhood no house can be above 60 feet (I really have no clue how tall houses are...). Your house comes in at 58 feet, and they tell you no -- it must be lower. Are you going to suck it up and say fine, then pocket the cost of getting your house down to 55 feet? I'm guessing not. Rules and regulations are in place and you guy by them.
Fact is, he followed all NFL regulations and I don't forsee this being a big issue. The league also has to approve the stadium and its specifics, do they not? However you swing it, the league is absolutely responsible for the scoreboard being too low. Don't get me wrong, I hate the Cowboys as much as everyone else here. But I truly believe Jerry tried his best to make this stadium as nice as possible for his fans. A big HD jumbotron is part of that package.
Your analogy is backwards...a parallel one would be a city building code that says ceilings must be 7 feet high at a minimum and doorways must be 6.5 feet high. You're 6'7" and you STILL follow that regulation and put in 7-foot ceilings in your house...then are surprised when you're constantly cracking your skull and can't raise your arms up.
When dealing with regulations, you have to make sure the people and contents of the building can comfortably and safely inhabit it. This is where Jerry failed.
Monkeydad
08-28-2009, 12:18 PM
Agreed. The only reason certain people here are blaming Jerry Jones and the Cowboys is because it's Jerry Jones and the Cowboys. Had this happened to us, people on Cowboys boards would be blaming Dan Snyder and the Redskins...just because
If it happened to us, I'd still question why Danny didn't test it out. Luckily our owner has some common sense...as strange as that may sound to some people.
irish
08-28-2009, 12:19 PM
You don't believe Jerry would allow architects, installers, or ANYONE else actually make any decisions and changes to his monument, do you?
It's his project, it's his responsibility to make sure it is right...no matter what the regulations SUGGEST. The regulation authors never envisioned a screen that was 60 yards long and large enough to block the view of the top half of the stadium. He was putting something of that magnitude in for the first time, you'd think he would make sure it would actually work for playing a football game under it and fit in the space.
Unfortunately, his pocketbook and ego are both larger than his brain.
Regulations dont "suggest", suggestions do. Regulations are rules and rules have to be followed. Jerry followed the rules.
53Fan
08-28-2009, 12:19 PM
Agreed. The only reason certain people here are blaming Jerry Jones and the Cowboys is because it's Jerry Jones and the Cowboys. Had this happened to us, people on Cowboys boards would be blaming Dan Snyder and the Redskins...just because
Could be. Or it could be his denying anything is wrong with it and his statement that punters are hitting it purposely like that's the only way it could happen. Plus his absolute refusal to correct it.
53Fan
08-28-2009, 12:22 PM
Regulations dont "suggest", suggestions do. Regulations are rules and rules have to be followed. Jerry followed the rules.
There is no rule that says you can't place it higher than the minimum. I doubt they had a screen that long in mind when they set the regulations.
irish
08-28-2009, 12:25 PM
There is no rule that says you can't place it higher than the minimum. I doubt they had a screen that long in mind when they set the regulations.
That's true which is why I suspect the screen was mounted 5ft higher than the minimum.
53Fan
08-28-2009, 12:30 PM
That's true which is why I suspect the screen was mounted 5ft higher than the minimum.
Not quite enough was it?
irish
08-28-2009, 12:32 PM
Not quite enough was it?
Nope.
over the mountain
08-28-2009, 01:25 PM
if goddell is going to be so strict about placing accountability on the players he should have bitten the bullet and held himself and the nfl accountable as well.
freakin bizarre. any chance jerry did this for entertainment value of having punters deal with the scoreboard as a added element of intrigue for the punting game?
go skins!!