Who do you want to start at QB?

The mobility factor is a pretty big one IMO. Rex has none, Beck has a lot.

With Beck in there they can run the bootleg play-action stuff and the Giants will actually have to respect it. It also helps sell the stretch running game too.

Rex is a statue in the pocket, Beck adds a lot more athleticism and can make plays outside of the pocket on the run.

That all sounds good but in the end its Beck who will be doing those things and at this point I just dont see any coach losing sleep over whether Beck will shred their D with his play action and roll outs. That might change when Nov rolls around, but I have a hard time believeing that Beck is this undiscovered gem who's been over-looked for 4 years.

That all sounds good but in the end its Beck who will be doing those things and at this point I just dont see any coach losing sleep over whether Beck will shred their D with his play action and roll outs. That might change when Nov rolls around, time will tell.

I never said the Giants will be losing sleep over this, just the simple point both QBs bring something different to the table, enough to where their gameplan may vary, even just a little, depending on who plays.

You know how this league is, if a coach sees any sort of advantage, no matter how small, they will try to take advantage of it. That's why Shanahan is probably going to wait til the last minute to name a starter.

We are not a Sb contender. Give the starting position to Beck and lets see what he does. If he fails you can fall back on a veteran. If you start Grossman and he fails, you are putting in an unknown. I would start Beck. We have nothing to lose.

I never said the Giants will be losing sleep over this, just the simple point both QBs bring something different to the table, enough to where their gameplan may vary, even just a little, depending on who plays.

You know how this league is, if a coach sees any sort of advantage, no matter how small, they will try to take advantage of it. That's why Shanahan is probably going to wait til the last minute to name a starter.

Good point, I guess the minimal advantage lies more in the unknown rather than the actual person playing QB.

Good point, I guess the minimal advantage lies more in the unknown rather than the actual person playing QB.

Yeah guess that's what I was getting at in a round about way.

Like I said in the other thread.. Beck has only started 4 games for the NFL and it was for a 0-9 team. For people to think he's the next coming of Tom Brady and is going to go 20-25 for 250 every game is kinda crazy...

When Beck starts this year he will have games like this, lets just hope our running game is on point and our defense plays the way they did tonight to keep us in games

We are not a Sb contender. Give the starting position to Beck and lets see what he does. If he fails you can fall back on a veteran. If you start Grossman and he fails, you are putting in an unknown. I would start Beck. We have nothing to lose.

This. Grossman is a known commodity, Beck is not. We know what we are getting with Grossman, and it's extremely pedestrian. Beck at the same time, is more athletic, and seems to have a higher ceiling. I say give Beck a chance the first four games. If he falls on his face, we have Rex to fall back on..

It's not going to be too long before the starter is announced and both threads become obsolete, so in the meantime we'll keep that discussion in one place.

But for the record I agree with you. Shanny rested his starting QB tonight, and Rex will start week one. That way should the wheels fall off the Grossman train, he can put in his pet project in Beck. If he starts Beck from the jump and he sucks, he looks less sharp as a HC for hitching so much of his giddyup on a 30 year old never-was...

I think Shanny just wanted to even the reps out, that's all. I didn't read anything into him starting Beck over Rex other than having equal amount of game film and reps to evaluate them respectively.

That said, I think he'll go with Beck for the very opposite reason you think he'll go with Grossman. I think Beck still has some upside and he hasn't mastered this system at all. If Beck fails, then he can defer to the crafty veteran on the bench, Rex Grossman. I think Beck will be the starter week one.

As I was watching the game I was thinking that it was a foreshadowing of a frustrating year to come. Today though I thought back to some preseason games when it looked to many of us like a player was due to get cut, only to see him rise up the depth chart later in the year.

Coaches will see things we can't, and also there's a built-in patience factor w/Beck. If they go w/him they will likely expect some really terrible decisions at times, like we saw last night. With time though, if they are behind him & believe he will improve, he'll be given every opportunity. We already know what we have in Rex, as many others have pointed out. So I believe we'll see Beck in week 1 & I'm happy w/that.

Maybe not, but both guys bring different skill sets to the table. It at least gives the Giants some uncertainty.

Coughlin's gameplans for the D:


Rex starts..."everyone run to the backfield!"
Beck starts..."everyone run over there!"