SBXVII
10-18-2011, 01:42 PM
But I would bet my life that most Redskins fans would trade Grossman for any one of the QB's you listed above... Not trying to be a smart ass ,but just sayn brother.
and... I would also. But my point is everyone is all over putting Beck in simply because of the INT's each game.
All I'm saying is there are other QB's that are just as bad with the interceptions. Now the next arguement is going to be that he's not putting points on the board and as I said there have been plenty of balls that should have been caught for a TD but were not because they were dropped.
Maybe if the team had decent WR's those dropped balls would be TD's and we would not be having to talk about the lack of points on the board. But I'm sure Beck will come in and fix this issue (how I don't know) no different then anyone of those top ranked QB's would be able to come in and fix our problems.
GTripp0012
10-18-2011, 01:44 PM
Yeah well Rex Grossman isn't even on the same Planet as these 5 above. So that argument isn't too strong my friend.You're missing the point.
skinsfaninok
10-18-2011, 01:44 PM
And those other QB's have like 17 Tds by now also except Cam and he's a rookie that will be a superstar
skinsfaninok
10-18-2011, 01:45 PM
You're missing the point.
Lol No I see the point I mean it happens to all the QBs but Rex has done this his whole career.
SBXVII
10-18-2011, 01:48 PM
For the record I don't hate Rex Grossman and I wanted him to be a good QB for us but he's just not, 9INTs in 4 games? CMON folks
Come on man. I'm betting hardly so. The only reason some of the fans felt as you said was because he was named the starter. Trust me I wanted Beck because of all the hype in the off season. I wanted Beck because of the fact he's more mobile. But the coach's saw something else. Something we didn't see.
All I'm saying is perhaps it's not all Rex. But we fans are quick to ship him because of the INT ratio per game.
I'll gladly eat crow come the next few weeks when Beck has to face more talented teams then the Panthers and can put the points on the board a long with cutting down on the INT's. But I just doubt that I'm going to half to. Nothing against Beck, I'm just saying I think we are going to see the same if not similar results from Beck .... who seems to be some fans savior for the season.
calia
10-18-2011, 01:53 PM
Actually, it is a fair point that even great QBs have stretches of throwing picks. But even for the excellent ones who have done so this season (Brady, Brees, et al.), they've also thrown a lot of TDs -- a lot more than Rex.
The reality is that Rex just hasn't been good this season, and we've largely won 3 games despite him, not because of him. As I see it, his performaces are as follows:
1. Giants win -- a good game all around for Rex.
2. AZ win -- a terrible first half, but a solid second half and comeback win.
3. Dallas loss -- awful
4. Rams win -- awful
5. Eagles loss -- awful
By my count, that is 6 quarters -- out of 20 -- where he has played well. And that just doesn't cut it in this league. I like the guy and was rooting for him to be successful. And I like the fact that his teammates are pulling for him -- see the Moss response -- which suggests he's showing greater leadership in practice than appears evident on the field.
At this point, I would argue for giving Beck a shot. Rex is a turnover machine and has been his whole career, and as we do not exactly have an explosive offense (a great D, though), we have to basically play mistake free football to win games. And I just do not have confidence he can do that.
SBXVII
10-18-2011, 01:59 PM
And those other QB's have like 17 Tds by now also except Cam and he's a rookie that will be a superstar
This statement is incorrect also.
Some of them do some don't.
Brady- 16 TD's , 8 INT's.
Brees- 13 TD's , 8 INT's.
EManning- 11 TD's , 5 INT's.
Romo- 8 TD's, 6 INT's.
Roethlisberger- 9 TD's, 6 INT's.
Vick- 9 TD's , 8 INT's.
Rivers- 6 TD's , 7 INT's.
All I'm saying is we fans are quick to point the finger at the QB, no matter who's in the game, but we don't know who's fault it's been actually on each play. Only the coaching staff would know if the WR failed to run the right route, if the QB made the correct decision with where he threw the ball. On top of that what about the dropped balls by the receivers? clearly that should not count against either QB who starts.
Chico23231
10-18-2011, 01:59 PM
Good post. I'll cut off the people who are all, "don't compare Grossman to Brady!" people at the front: you're missing the point.
what about the ones who say all those Grossman INT werent his fault? those are my favs
SirClintonPortis
10-18-2011, 02:00 PM
Come on man. I'm betting hardly so. The only reason some of the fans felt as you said was because he was named the starter. Trust me I wanted Beck because of all the hype in the off season. I wanted Beck because of the fact he's more mobile. But the coach's saw something else. Something we didn't see.
All I'm saying is perhaps it's not all Rex. But we fans are quick to ship him because of the INT ratio per game.
I'll gladly eat crow come the next few weeks when Beck has to face more talented teams then the Panthers and can put the points on the board a long with cutting down on the INT's. But I just doubt that I'm going to half to. Nothing against Beck, I'm just saying I think we are going to see the same if not similar results from Beck .... who seems to be some fans savior for the season.
These coaches tied themselves up because they have to give the job to the competition winner, in which case was CLEARLY Rex at that time. That doesn't mean their decisions are ultimately right, as LJ and Galloway have already shown, and Stallworth and Banks are showing us once again.
Gary84Clark
10-18-2011, 02:07 PM
Rex won the QB "competition". Shanny is a genius.