Who do you want to start at QB?


SBXVII
10-18-2011, 03:31 PM
Who says they're not going back and watching the game?

Well after the 59-28 loss last year MS said he was going to toss out the film and not watch it because there was nothing to get out of it.

Now we hear Rex say you have to throw that game away. Now he might not have meant it in that context and I could be wrong but, no you can't just avoid watching it because it was an extremely bad game and you don't think your that bad.

MTK
10-18-2011, 03:33 PM
Well after the 59-28 loss last year MS said he was going to toss out the film and not watch it because there was nothing to get out of it.

Now we hear Rex say you have to throw that game away. Now he might not have meant it in that context and I could be wrong but, no you can't just avoid watching it because it was an extremely bad game and you don't think your that bad.

I can see tossing last year's game. Sometimes it's better to just move on.

I don't see where Rex said anything about not watching this one though, he's just saying he's not going to dwell on it.

SBXVII
10-18-2011, 03:37 PM
Rex sucks, let's just call it what it is. Guys like Brady have worked with no-name WR corps in the past and had success. Our WRs aren't world beaters but the cupboard is far from bare too.


and I agree with that. My whole arguement is Beck will not be that much better. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think so. I'm also starting to believe that the coaching staff has the receivers starting at point A and running their routes to point B and the ball "will" be at point B. If the WR gets bumped off his route we see missed catches, dropped balls, interceptions.

All those other QB's have systems to include PManning in which they throw the deep ball and the WR has to go after it, locate it, and catch it. Yeah we practiced the corner post and we see more of it now then last year but again we don't see the WR actually going after the ball unless it's right in their hands. Moss is a little better at this, but the others are not that good at doing it.

SBXVII
10-18-2011, 03:39 PM
I can see tossing last year's game. Sometimes it's better to just move on.

I don't see where Rex said anything about not watching this one though, he's just saying he's not going to dwell on it.

Gotcha. Well they need to go back and watch both and see if there is any similarities. Clearly the Eagles watched it and exploited the weaknesses.

hooskins
10-18-2011, 03:39 PM
To be honest I think it is fair to "throw away" (like how I did that?) the first INT. It was pretty much an punt. An awesome punt. I see how the 3rd INT could be dicey.

So let's give Rex 2.5 to 2.75 INTs.

Shadowbyte
10-18-2011, 03:40 PM
All I know is Shanny is 0 for 2 as far as QB's are concerned. How many more are we going to go through until we find "our-guy"? QB is now the most difficult and expensive position to fill in today's NFL. The only way you're going to get one is either finishing with an abysmal record, like the Lions, Rams, Panthers, Atlanta etc. or you have to take a chance on a mid-first rounder that comes at a high cost and a greater probability to fail.

Last but not least you can go with the nuclear option by giving up 2 to 3 first round picks to trade up or trade for someone outright. There's no easy decisions here. One way or another no good QB comes without great sacrifice, 6th and 7th rounders like Brady and Montana are once a generation, so finding someone that deep isn't a reliable option.

MTK
10-18-2011, 03:40 PM
and I agree with that. My whole arguement is Beck will not be that much better. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think so. I'm also starting to believe that the coaching staff has the receivers starting at point A and running their routes to point B and the ball "will" be at point B. If the WR gets bumped off his route we see missed catches, dropped balls, interceptions.

All those other QB's have systems to include PManning in which they throw the deep ball and the WR has to go after it, locate it, and catch it. Yeah we practiced the corner post and we see more of it now then last year but again we don't see the WR actually going after the ball unless it's right in their hands. Moss is a little better at this, but the others are not that good at doing it.

All he has to do is not give the ball away a couple of times per game and he will be a big improvement over Rex.

MTK
10-18-2011, 03:43 PM
To be honest I think it is fair to "throw away" (like how I did that?) the first INT. It was pretty much an punt. An awesome punt. I see how the 3rd INT could be dicey.

So let's give Rex 2.5 to 2.75 INTs.

I can give him a pass on the 1st INT and perhaps even the third. Still, fact is his decision making has been piss poor. And it seems the more he struggles, the more mistakes he makes. INT #4 sent me through the roof. He should have just thrown it out of bounds. Rex throwing on the run is bad news.

hooskins
10-18-2011, 03:54 PM
I am just trying to honestly assess the game a few days after. I am not as pissed off now lol.

The thing about Rex that bothers me more is that doesn't take the easier/shorter route at times. I've noticed our RBs tend to be open in the flats. Also he can really telegraph his passes at times

SmootSmack
10-18-2011, 04:02 PM
When you watch the game tape. And this may sound weird, but there are times when the completions are more frustrating than the interceptions. Like there are completions, and then there are good completions. He lately has had more of the former.

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