Cousins to start 2015 Season

A likely scenario was that when both Gruden and McLoughan were hired in each consecutive season, the message from the owner was to make it work with RG3 because of the investment made. At the end of last season there was no reason to anoint Cousins, no reason to anoint McCoy, so it made sense for Gruden and McLoughan to get on board. In fact they probably agreed that his raw talent made him the best of 3 not-so-great options.

They probably figured let's put our resources into Robert. So McLoughan tried to develop talent around him, and Jay committed to him by giving him starter's reps and positively supported him in the media.

But through the offseason Griffin didn't develop, despite the roster investments, and despite getting starter's reps.

At this point Gruden and McLoughan saw it wasn't working, went back to Snyder, and said listen man we have tried and tried. I drafted a lineman 5th overall, we hired a new offensive line coach who coached up Morgan Moses into a capable RT, Jay gave him all the learning opportunity in the offseason. I even gave him the $16M option guaranteed for injury. But you saw the Browns and Lions games, Robert still doesn't get it. Kirk does. And oh by the way, you saw how Robert still gets himself killed against Detroit, if he gets hurt for us we'll owe him $16M next season.

We have to switch.

What's Dan going to say to that? He probably was in favor of anointing Griffin as the starter. After last year there was no reason not to. But things change. No rational person thinks Griffin deserves to be starting after this offseason, preseason, and Kirk's supposed improvement in camp.

It doesn't have to be some crazy conspiracy. Things just change, and people come around to changing their minds.

A likely scenario was that when both Gruden and McLoughan were hired in each consecutive season, the message from the owner was to make it work with RG3 because of the investment made. At the end of last season there was no reason to anoint Cousins, no reason to anoint McCoy, so it made sense for Gruden and McLoughan to get on board. In fact they probably agreed that his raw talent made him the best of 3 not-so-great options.

They probably figured let's put our resources into Robert. So McLoughan tried to develop talent around him, and Jay committed to him by giving him starter's reps and positively supported him in the media.

But through the offseason Griffin didn't develop, despite the roster investments, and despite getting starter's reps.

At this point Gruden and McLoughan saw it wasn't working, went back to Snyder, and said listen man we have tried and tried. I drafted a lineman 5th overall, we hired a new offensive line coach who coached up Morgan Moses into a capable RT, Jay gave him all the learning opportunity in the offseason. I even gave him the $16M option guaranteed for injury. But you saw the Browns and Lions games, Robert still doesn't get it. Kirk does. And oh by the way, you saw how Robert still gets himself killed against Detroit, if he gets hurt for us we'll owe him $16M next season.

We have to switch.

What's Dan going to say to that? He probably was in favor of anointing Griffin as the starter. After last year there was no reason not to. But things change. No rational person thinks Griffin deserves to be starting after this offseason, preseason, and Kirk's supposed improvement in camp.

That is the real mystery here. Has he really jumped the learning curve or are they just so sick of Robert that anyone will do at this point who has not been in a Subway commercial.

I guess we have different thoughts on what calling all the shots means. Sure he has his say on things, but obviously his mind can be changed so he's really not controlling everything like some think. This isn't the first time Griffin had been benched, or any QB here.


I agree with that totally.

Let's face it guys, the Redskins have been a desparate team for 2 decades. Desparate teams have to take gambles to get better. Functional teams like the Patriots do not. So they gambled in 2012, and we all thought it was worth it after the season, EVEN with RGiii's injury I would say, because they made it to the playoffs. But now that we have found out RGiii is made of glass, and can't make quick decisions to protect himself, the honeymoon is over. "He can't be a moble QB or he will get hurt" that's what everyone said. Then in the Detroit game he gets hurt FROM INSIDE the POCKET. So basically he just gets hurt. Heck, in the Jacksonville game last year he got hurt just running. Kirk is probably not the answer, but you have 52 other guys on this team that want to win now, and Kirk gives them a better chance to do that than RGiii. I'm and RGiii fan, but I guess I'm really and RGiii 2012 fan. IF they are not going to run read-option, then he is not the QB for them.

I can only imagine if some of you owned the team. Coaches would be fired at halftime.

You know how many players would be cut during games?....rofl

A likely scenario was that when both Gruden and McLoughan were hired in each consecutive season, the message from the owner was to make it work with RG3 because of the investment made. At the end of last season there was no reason to anoint Cousins, no reason to anoint McCoy, so it made sense for Gruden and McLoughan to get on board. In fact they probably agreed that his raw talent made him the best of 3 not-so-great options.



They probably figured let's put our resources into Robert. So McLoughan tried to develop talent around him, and Jay committed to him by giving him starter's reps and positively supported him in the media.



But through the offseason Griffin didn't develop, despite the roster investments, and despite getting starter's reps.



At this point Gruden and McLoughan saw it wasn't working, went back to Snyder, and said listen man we have tried and tried. I drafted a lineman 5th overall, we hired a new offensive line coach who coached up Morgan Moses into a capable RT, Jay gave him all the learning opportunity in the offseason. I even gave him the $16M option guaranteed for injury. But you saw the Browns and Lions games, Robert still doesn't get it. Kirk does. And oh by the way, you saw how Robert still gets himself killed against Detroit, if he gets hurt for us we'll owe him $16M next season.



We have to switch.



What's Dan going to say to that? He probably was in favor of anointing Griffin as the starter. After last year there was no reason not to. But things change. No rational person thinks Griffin deserves to be starting after this offseason, preseason, and Kirk's supposed improvement in camp.


Yeah I think this nails it.

And any of Dan's "resistance" was likely more about what to do with him now.

Someone posted that Robert's father contacted Stephen A. Smith to offer his version of RGIII's benching. I wonder if they are off somewhere cooking up a story intended to embarrass the Redskins organization? If so, this mess could get worse before it gets better.

I'm also wondering if RGIII's camp will try to force the Redskins to release him, if necessary.

I'm glad this happen. I just don't like how the coaches handled it. It should have been an open competition from the beginning. That way would could have avoided the circus we have going on now.

Gruden's offense in Cincy put up some great numbers over several seasons but he had a certain player type to work with. He had an outstanding offensive line, huge receivers and two big TE's that could catch and block. Look at the stats he put up with Andy Dalton. That type of offensive success in the same division with the Ravens and Steelers is an accomplishment.

Nailed it. It takes time to build that roster but Gruden and Scot are heading in the same direction. Having RG3 out of the spotlight and probably off the roster, only helps get there quicker. Keep the continuity and vision. If KC can be a solid top 15 QB by 2016, I think we can really develop the roster and get things headed into 8-10 win territory pretty quick. The offense isn't as far away as some think. The secondary is the terrible though.

Scot will get us more 2's, 3's and 4's for the draft in 2016. That's where he shines and can really fill the roster out. I'm excited about the next few years. I don't expect deep playoff runs, I just want consistency and progress.