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I'm glad this happen. I just don't like how the coaches handled it. It should have been an open competition from the beginning. That way would could have avoided the circus we have going on now.
An open competition would have created it's own circus and drama.
http://realredskins.com/2015/09/02/need-to-know-why-didnt-the-redskins-have-a-quarterback-competition/
Ruhskins 09-02-2015, 10:47 AM An open competition would have created it's own circus and drama.
Need to Know: Why didn’t the Redskins have a quarterback competition? | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins (http://realredskins.com/2015/09/02/need-to-know-why-didnt-the-redskins-have-a-quarterback-competition/)
McCloughan has done a lot to stop the drama, unfortunately the fans and the media (specially the local media) are bent on keeping the drama up.
I was listening to the Football Today podcast a few days ago, they were talking the Bills releasing Fred Jackson and saying that the team wanted to release him earlier in the offseason, but ownership stopped that. I laughed when I heard b/c some people here swear we're the only team with problems.
McCloughan has done a lot to stop the drama, unfortunately the fans and the media (specially the local media) are bent on keeping the drama up.
I was listening to the Football Today podcast a few days ago, they were talking the Bills releasing Fred Jackson and saying that the team wanted to release him earlier in the offseason, but ownership stopped that. I laughed when I heard b/c some people here swear we're the only team with problems.
Yeah everyone has drama no doubt. Fans live in a fishbowl and think everything only happens to their team.
Buffalo Bob 09-02-2015, 11:02 AM A comprehensive history of how Washington ruined Robert Griffin III's body, mind and spirit - SBNation.com (http://www.sbnation.com/2015/9/1/9232961/robert-griffin-iii-washington-jay-gruden-dan-snyder-mike-shanahan-injury-concussion)
This is a good read, but long. This might be the best article I have ever read on RG3's career with the Redskins, which now appears to be in retrospect. There are cool embedded GIF's of RG3's various injuries, and honestly, upon watching them again, were quite gruesome.
His future seemed so immense in 2012, but it was obvious that the knee injury, and concussions are most likely career-ending in the sense that he most likely will never, ever, be anything close to what he once was. Not even a shadow. I think his best bet is to get a fresh start somewhere else, as a backup where he can learn the fine points of the game, and perhaps some team will give him a shot again to start. I just think while only 25, his body has suffered terrible injuries and is no longer up to NFL duty...
I think there is plenty of blame to go around for the demise of RG3.
Unmentioned by most is other than Russell Wilson the effectiveness of the
dual threat QB has been minimized. An example since 2012 Colin Kaepernick's
numbers have dropped substantially, like Robert his YPC is down over 2 yards
a carry from 2012. Different system, injured or not a repeat of 2012 wasn't
happening in 2015, defenses would not allow it.
Only a blind man would think Robert's first injury was handled well, he was returned to action when the risk of making the knee 100% worse was real
high. Shanahan let him play against Seattle until they almost killed him. I
don't care what Robert wanted to do, he doesn't run the show and the coach
has to look out for the players.
I won't lay any blame on Robert for rumors, just what I see with my own two
eyes. It is real simple, when defenses and injuries took away the skills that made him offensive rookie of the year in 2012, he failed to adapt. He has shown ZERO improvement learning to play from the pocket. Please don't blame
the current schemes or play calling, the explosive first step and world class speed are gone. 2012's playbook wouldn't work even if defenses didn't evolve.
Who knows if he sits and gets with the right coach some new dance moves
can be learned. There have been many a slow footed NFL QB who had great pocket mobility. What mental issues he had with the game are all rumor,
but if he did have trouble with reads the old Robert bought time with his
sprinters burst, the new Robert can't do that. I have found the only easily obvious reading problem (viewing from your couch). Is the one read QB who locks on receivers (see Colin Kaepernick). I didn't notice Robert doing that.
irish 09-02-2015, 11:21 AM Very good post Buffalo Bob, all great points. I definitely agree that the days of the dual threat QB are near an end.
Schneed10 09-02-2015, 11:47 AM That is the real mystery here. Has he really jumped the learning curve or are they just so sick of Robert that anyone will do at this point who has not been in a Subway commercial.
And to some extent you can't really go by what you see in camp, you have to decide more based on game action. Robert was said to be making improvements through OTAs but the bullets started flying in preseason and it looked like same old same old.
Kirk may have made a leap, but we won't really know until the season gets going. I still expect him to throw a lot of picks. I'll be pleasantly surprised if he doesn't. I can see with my eyes that he has great mastery of the offense, he hits the top of the drop and the ball comes out aggressively. If he does cut down the picks that will mean we're playing some winning football, and that will make Gruden look like a genius.
But who knows what Kirk will do. All we do know for sure is that Robert still looks like shit. He hesitates, doesn't know where to go with the ball, can't read things fast enough, and gets himself demolished.
The way I see it, starting Robert means we're guaranteed to suck. Kirk at least gives you half a chance.
skinsfan69 09-02-2015, 11:48 AM That is the real mystery here. Has he really jumped the learning curve or are they just so sick of Robert that anyone will do at this point who has not been in a Subway commercial.
Well you heard Gruden say that he took a big leap going from year one to two. Apparently they were going to let KC play with the first team offense (in Baltimore) whether Griffin was healthy or not. I just think it came down to he just beat out Griffin. And I think McCoy has also beat out Griffin. He is the 3rd best QB on the roster. Tough for people to admit but it's true.
mredskins 09-02-2015, 11:58 AM And to some extent you can't really go by what you see in camp, you have to decide more based on game action. Robert was said to be making improvements through OTAs but the bullets started flying in preseason and it looked like same old same old.
Kirk may have made a leap, but we won't really know until the season gets going. I still expect him to throw a lot of picks. I'll be pleasantly surprised if he doesn't. I can see with my eyes that he has great mastery of the offense, he hits the top of the drop and the ball comes out aggressively. If he does cut down the picks that will mean we're playing some winning football, and that will make Gruden look like a genius.
But who knows what Kirk will do. All we do know for sure is that Robert still looks like shit. He hesitates, doesn't know where to go with the ball, can't read things fast enough, and gets himself demolished.
The way I see it, starting Robert means we're guaranteed to suck. Kirk at least gives you half a chance.
Agree x1000
Alvin Walton 09-02-2015, 12:03 PM So who's a third QB we can pick up?
kingj 09-02-2015, 12:04 PM Michael Wise and Brian Mitchell collectively leaked to Scott McC that RG3 was breeding and betting on Siamese fighting fish.
Thats why Griffin will be benched and released.
Mike Wise? He's the white version of Jason Reid. Both clowns should be banned from any type of media
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