I agree its hard to imagine right now. Because right now the perception is that Griffin is the problem.
And I agree 100% that its clear that J wants to move on with Kirk. But what IF that decision proves to be wrong?
That's the scenario where Griffin would be back on the table. IF the decision to move to Kirk proves to be a failure.
Griffin has already proven to be a failure, that's why Kirk is playing. If KC doesn't work out it's likely a fresh slate at QB next year. I just don't see how RG3 plays here again. I think at this point SM has seen enough and wiped his hands of the situation.
30gut
09-16-2015, 03:49 PM
Griffin has already proven to be a failure, that's why Kirk is playing. If KC doesn't work out it's likely a fresh slate at QB next year. I just don't see how RG3 plays here again. I think at this point SM has seen enough and wiped his hands of the situation.I agree and said earlier that IF Kirk fails that the first order of business for Scott is to hire a HC and together pick "their" QB. But IF Kirk/J fail I don't see why that would preclude Griffin from returning to compete. It would be the same scenario as Harbaugh, Smith and Kaep except Griffin being a much more accomplished QB then Smith at that point.
And if you're saying Griffin has proven to be a failure then by the same token Kirk is failure. At this juncture the stats don't support 1 QB having a large measure of separation form the other. And to be really accurate Griffin's only real "failure" was during his short tenure with Jay (7 starts). Prior to that he was phenomenal and average.
Maybe Scott has seen enough. All this is moot if Kirk and Jay produce like we all want them. But IF they fail? I can see Scott wondering about Griffin's lost opportunity, like with Alex Smith.
CRedskinsRule
09-16-2015, 03:49 PM
I don't think I want to get sucked into this hellish cycle...back to my cave
SS, just admit that you gave special favors to SM for inside information (none of us will tweet about it, promise).
CRedskinsRule
09-16-2015, 03:51 PM
Griffin has already proven to be a failure, that's why Kirk is playing. If KC doesn't work out it's likely a fresh slate at QB next year. I just don't see how RG3 plays here again. I think at this point SM has seen enough and wiped his hands of the situation.
THIS, 1000x's THIS
the 2012 draft is done, all the costs of that draft are gone. IF our record and performance requires starting anew with a new HC, then he will be bringing in the next 20-22year old stud, and we won't be talking about the 2012 draft no more.
Evilgrin
09-16-2015, 04:19 PM
McLovin isn't even close to be done with the roster.
JoeRedskin
09-16-2015, 04:26 PM
Maybe Scott has seen enough. All this is moot if Kirk and Jay produce like we all want them. But IF they fail? I can see Scott wondering about Griffin's lost opportunity, like with Alex Smith.
You may have a hard time accepting SS's information. For far too many reasons and based on far to many independently verified statements, I don't.
If SS says - without equivocation - that SM is not a fan of RGIII, you can take it to the bank.
Right now, SM is sneaking in the tall grass looking for the right trade.
SmootSmack
09-16-2015, 04:27 PM
SS, just admit that you gave special favors to SM for inside information (none of us will tweet about it, promise).
LOL!!!
"Step into my cave Scot, make yourself comfortable"
Back to the cave
JoeRedskin
09-16-2015, 04:31 PM
"Step into my cave Scot, make yourself comfortable"
SmootSmack interviewing Scot McC ....
http://blogu.lu/matilda/files/2010/11/pedo.png
mooby
09-16-2015, 04:36 PM
LOL!!!
"Step into my cave Scot, make yourself comfortable"
Back to the cave
Would you care to try some of my toilet wine?
Oh, uh, I'll pass. But thank you.
Oh. You should... definitely drink this toilet wine. It'll make everything much easier.
That Guy
09-16-2015, 04:39 PM
That's true. We've really had some horrible drafts in recent years. Hard to recall the last one that led to multiple starters who lasted for more than a few years. 2000?
2004 - sean taylor and chris cooley. (only 4 picks that year)
in 2002 and 2006 we had good day 2s (round 5-7) hitting 3+ depth players that stayed on quite a while, but the lack of high picks over the last 15 years has really been terrible as far as having enough picks to call drafts as a success.