JoeRedskin
09-07-2015, 11:11 PM
Maybe Scott wants to keep Griffin because maybe the current problem with Griffin is J. And they got rid of Griffin and J fails then they're completely starting over, again. If they keep Griffin and J fails there's still the chance (slim to be sure) that Griffin could experience a resurgence when paired with a HC that actually believes in him ala Alex Smith and Harbaugh.
All of which is a valid point of view and the premise of your original question. For the various reasons stated and dismissed as unresponsive by you, most others on this forum disagree with you.
But please, continue to demonstrate your rhetorical legerdemain by dismissing all opinions different from your own as unresponsive or irrelevant. It is oh-so-helpful to the exchange of ideas.
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Can we......Please get back to the Hate Fest now?
NC_Skins
09-08-2015, 12:07 AM
But outside of that what is the benefit on the field of not having Griffin on the team, not on the field but on the team?
How does Griffin being gone make the team better?
You can't just think about "on the field" in terms of a player on your roster. When Tony Dungy was asked about having Michael Sam on his team, he flat out said he wouldn't draft him b/c the talent wasn't worth the distraction. Just imagine the first time Kirk has a bad game. What do you think the fans are going to do? Chant RG3. What do you think the media is going to do? Question who should be the starter....and so forth. What do you think his answers are going to be when asked if he should be the starter? You trust Griffin with the media?....lol
His talent in this system isn't worth the distraction quite honesty.
So ultimately Griffin being off this team makes it a better team in the locker room and from a PR standpoint. From a "on the field" standpoint, it really doesn't affect us whether he's on the squad or off of it. All this is purely disregarding the 16 mil as well.
Ruhskins
09-08-2015, 12:16 AM
You can't just think about "on the field" in terms of a player on your roster. When Tony Dungy was asked about having Michael Sam on his team, he flat out said he wouldn't draft him b/c the talent wasn't worth the distraction. Just imagine the first time Kirk has a bad game. What do you think the fans are going to do? Chant RG3. What do you think the media is going to do? Question who should be the starter....and so forth. What do you think his answers are going to be when asked if he should be the starter? You trust Griffin with the media?....lol
His talent in this system isn't worth the distraction quite honesty.
So ultimately Griffin being off this team makes it a better team in the locker room and from a PR standpoint. From a "on the field" standpoint, it really doesn't affect us whether he's on the squad or off of it. All this is purely disregarding the 16 mil as well.
If Cousins doesn't do well, there'll be drama whether RG3 is here or not. However, I do agree that if it is not necessary, RG3 shouldn't be kept on the roster. I am fine with the team seeking something for him.
NC_Skins
09-08-2015, 12:22 AM
If Cousins doesn't do well, there'll be drama whether RG3 is here or not.
That's a given, but not from fans on gameday chanting RG3. It'll be less drama if Kirk plays bad with him gone than with him here. That much is for certain. Once he's on another squad, they can't talk about him. :)
Ruhskins
09-08-2015, 12:31 AM
That's a given, but not from fans on gameday chanting RG3. It'll be less drama if Kirk plays bad with him gone than with him here. That much is for certain. Once he's on another squad, they can't talk about him. :)
Fans will be chanting Colt McCoy. Also, if Kirk falters, they'll be drama because Jay will be in the hot seat.
I think RG3 will be gone. I just don't think the drama problems will be gone. I just hope the fans/ownership give McC more time if we have a terrible season.
NC_Skins
09-08-2015, 12:42 AM
Fans will be chanting Colt McCoy. Also, if Kirk falters, they'll be drama because Jay will be in the hot seat.
I think RG3 will be gone. I just don't think the drama problems will be gone. I just hope the fans/ownership give McC more time if we have a terrible season.
I didn't say the drama will be gone. I said it will be lessened. Yeah....McCoy hasn't put up any type of offense like Griffin did back in 2012 for fans to be shouting his name like that. Fans remember that season and associate it with RG3. They don't see why he can't do the same now. McCoy doesn't get that kind of props from fans.....unless it's Smoot. :silly:
SirLK26
09-08-2015, 01:22 AM
...pertinaciously pedantic...
Pretty sure this is the only time in my life I'll get to see these two words used together in a sentence. :D Thanks Joe.
KI Skins Fan
09-08-2015, 06:19 AM
I ain't gonna argue nothin' with Joe! :smashfreak:
artmonkforhallofamein07
09-08-2015, 11:30 AM
ugg... this is from Grantland today.
The life-saving Pro-Football-Reference.com has an interception percentage index statistic that adjusts a quarterback’s interception rate for the era in which he plays. Over his first three seasons, Cousins’s INT%+ is a dismal 66. Nobody in the history of the National Football League whose total number of pass attempts over their first three seasons equals Cousins’s total has thrown interceptions at a higher rate (relative to their peers) than he has. He took that title away from Ryan Leaf, who is the only other player in the 60s, at 67. That somehow makes it worse.