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SolidSnake84 09-10-2015, 07:55 PM What people? Or do you mean people in this thread?
Nothing I've read or heard about Griffin strikes me that he is the type of person to fail the concussion test on purpose. (if that's even possible as Matty suggested it wasn't)
Fletcher, who recently spoke with Griffin said that even though he [Fletcher] would want out Griffin's situation that Griffin wants to stay and win in Washington.
But sure, why not say that Griffin is failing on purpose. It fits in perfectly with this thread.
People on the thread.
RedskinJake 09-10-2015, 08:06 PM Many people have pointed out that RG3 seems like the kind of person who would "find a way' to fail the tests and or otherwise look injured / not well so that he can guarantee his 17 million for next year.
However - it might be that he is actually dealing with brain issues / injury. Someone on here posted a link to an excellent article that detailed every one of RG3's sports injuries since college and the NFL, and he has had 4 concussions since college, counting the one against Detroit. That is a lot, and he is getting close to the number that has had some pro QB's call it quits after a long career. (Aikman had 7 IIRC, Montana 6, Steve Young had 5)
To be RG3 at 25 years old and already had 4 concussions, by the time he is 30 he could have suffered as many as 7 or 8, really putting his long-term health into question..
I don't want to downplay concussions and head injuries. I had a head injury myself at 13 that has followed me through my adult life. Having multiple concussions is no joke and is something that truly deserves more understanding by the League and it's members. That said, I have heard of players (college, not pro) purposely doing slightly worse on their initial baseline tests so if they have a concussion they can be cleared quicker to play again.
To your point, I actually think most players have had more concussions than they even realize. Guys like Wes Welker are literally putting their future at risk every time they step on a field.
CRedskinsRule 09-10-2015, 08:07 PM From the NCAA..
"Most return-to-play protocols are similar to those in the Consensus Statement on Concussion in Sport guidelines which outline a progressive increase in physical activity if the individual is at baseline before starting the protocol and remains at baseline throughout each step of the protocol."
The League and it's doctors are going to err on the side of caution. If says he's symptomatic, he won't be cleared. That might get a closer look after a few weeks but in the short term, there's nothing stopping him from doing so. MRIs or CT scans alone would never clear a player from a concussion.
I don't think the team is pushing him for it. From their announcements they are only sending him once a week it seems. Portis or Cooley (i don't remember which and they were both on the air together discussing it) said that after one of their concussions, the team was sending him to Pittsburgh daily to clear him.
From the team's perspective I imagine him on Concussion Protocol let's them move forward without anything more than a roster space.
From his perspective, he could probably push for more testing, but he can also let the tests go forward, have limited practices, and maybe get something good going. It is his 3rd concussion, so I wouldn't blame him for not rushing back, even if the competitor in him wants to get back in.
SolidSnake84 09-10-2015, 08:19 PM I don't want to downplay concussions and head injuries. I had a head injury myself at 13 that has followed me through my adult life. Having multiple concussions is no joke and is something that truly deserves more understanding by the League and it's members. That said, I have heard of players (college, not pro) purposely doing slightly worse on their initial baseline tests so if they have a concussion they can be cleared quicker to play again.
To your point, I actually think most players have had more concussions than they even realize. Guys like Wes Welker are literally putting their future at risk every time they step on a field.
RG3, love him or hate him, has had 4 "documented" concussions, and to your point he, like any football player has "had his bell rung" plenty more times beyond that. It is at the point where he probably really is risking his future health if he continues to play on while constantly taking shots to the head.
One of my favorite wrestlers growing up with Mick Foley, who has had a lifetime of concussions, to say the least. He is 46 years old now, in the early stages of brain damage, and while still seemingly coherent, his wife has to put his socks on him and help him with other menial tasks. It is a shame because he was still wrestling just a few years ago and "seemed fine".
I have no personal dislike of RG3. Is brain damage really worth it for this young man? What good is all the money in the world if he can't spend it, and his wife has to take care of him, etc....
From the NCAA..
"Most return-to-play protocols are similar to those in the Consensus Statement on Concussion in Sport guidelines which outline a progressive increase in physical activity if the individual is at baseline before starting the protocol and remains at baseline throughout each step of the protocol."
The League and it's doctors are going to err on the side of caution. If says he's symptomatic, he won't be cleared. That might get a closer look after a few weeks but in the short term, there's nothing stopping him from doing so. MRIs or CT scans alone would never clear a player from a concussion.
Like I said, doctors can see through the BS of someone trying to fix a test, I didn't say a diagnostic test alone would clear someone. But when normal testing doesn't line up with a doctors observation they'll know something is up.
OnceWeWereKings 09-11-2015, 01:08 AM Wow. Tin foil hats abroad.
He's not faking a concussion.
This is getting totally ridiculous on both sides of the coin. On one side we have people saying he's the greatest (3rd string) qb ever and all the coaches and personal are totally wrong...and on the other side we have people saying he's faking head trauma to get a paycheck. This all after people have said it was a team collusion to get him injured in the first place.
Egh. Double egh.
I can't wait for this to be done so I can start bitching about our secondary that can't tackle, because that will at least be caught on film.
Something something something guy on the grassy knoll...something something shanahan book depository building.
I'm over it already.
kct1975 09-11-2015, 08:52 AM This is actually a good article...
Report: Decision to bench RG3 came down to two key points
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-decision-to-bench-rg3-came-down-to-two-key-points/ar-AAe95WW?li=BBgzzfc
This article is a little long, but it makes some good points...
Rebuilding the Redskins from the Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/sports/wp/2015/09/08/proven-success-scot-mccloughans-first-season-in-washington/?tid=sm_tw_ps
mooby 09-11-2015, 10:34 AM This article is a little long, but it makes some good points...
Rebuilding the Redskins from the Washington Post
Redskins GM Scot McCloughan aims to build a consistent winner after decades of instability | The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/sports/wp/2015/09/08/proven-success-scot-mccloughans-first-season-in-washington/?tid=sm_tw_ps)
Mmm, the feels are good. Hopefully that translates into results on the field sometime in the next 3 seasons.
NC_Skins 09-11-2015, 12:23 PM @lizclarketweet
#Skins President Bruce Allen just told WTOP that QB RG3 has been cleared to return to games, 3 wks after suffering 3d concussion of career
over the mountain 09-11-2015, 12:33 PM @lizclarketweet
#Skins President Bruce Allen just told WTOP that QB RG3 has been cleared to return to games, 3 wks after suffering 3d concussion of career
Good news.
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