Looking at the draft.

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sdskinsfan2001
03-28-2018, 10:25 PM
I really like Payne...I like Derwin James. I have mixed emotions about vea and Fitzpatrick...lil overrated imo...vea more than Fitzpatrick. Smith the ILB is my question mark...I like him but ILB seem like bust city that high.

Guice is a first round talent and i don’t think it would be too big of a reach...I think the biggest hangup is the fact it’s the position of RB so high. Barkley is real deal though. If gruden and staff consider him to be a back who could take our run game to next level...I could get behind that.

Derwin is a souped up version of Cravens (talent wise only) that can drop deep and play free safety.

Him, Nicholson, and Swearinger would be a great safety combo.

EARTHQUAKE2689
03-28-2018, 11:29 PM
That line of thinking lends itself to falling in love with one player without giving appropriate consideration for your alternatives.

You’re by definition espousing a ‘reach’ strategy. Foolhardy.

I agree it can backfire, and I do like Guice, (My LSU fanhood may have something to do with that) but with where we are I think we will get a good prospect regardless where we end up.

sdskinsfan2001
03-29-2018, 11:01 AM
Do we have a combination of 8 open spots/guys to replace or should we package some picks to move back up in the draft?

CRedskinsRule
03-29-2018, 11:16 AM
Do we have a combination of 8 open spots/guys to replace or should we package some picks to move back up in the draft?

Generally, I think you bring in the 8 guys. Between practice squad guys, diamond in the rough guys, and guys that looked good, but didn't cut it, the more bodies you bring in, generally the more likely to find the good ones.

BUT

If you see a guy in the mid 3rd that you had a 2nd round grade on, then by all means jump up to get him

sdskinsfan2001
03-29-2018, 11:32 AM
Generally, I think you bring in the 8 guys. Between practice squad guys, diamond in the rough guys, and guys that looked good, but didn't cut it, the more bodies you bring in, generally the more likely to find the good ones.

BUT

If you see a guy in the mid 3rd that you had a 2nd round grade on, then by all means jump up to get him

Yeah, usually you trade up for a certain guy like described and I'm not really sure exactly how the draft pick points work. But I wouldn't be opposed to trading a 4th and a 5th to move back up into the 3rd round. Or like a 5th and 6th to get another 4th rounder. Either way, draft is less than a month. I'm ready.

CRedskinsRule
03-29-2018, 11:50 AM
Yeah, usually you trade up for a certain guy like described and I'm not really sure exactly how the draft pick points work. But I wouldn't be opposed to trading a 4th and a 5th to move back up into the 3rd round. Or like a 5th and 6th to get another 4th rounder. Either way, draft is less than a month. I'm ready.
you say less than a month, I say a whole freakin' month LOL

We are going to hear so much rumor, hyperbole and just plain idiocy for 4 weeks. Wish they would move it up by 2 weeks, then let teams practice sooner too. Then start training camp earlier, and shrink preseason, and kick off the whole season a month or two earlier, and extend it for a month or two as well.


I HATE THE OFF SEASON!!

KI Skins Fan
03-29-2018, 12:08 PM
I really like Payne...I like Derwin James. I have mixed emotions about vea and Fitzpatrick...lil overrated imo...vea more than Fitzpatrick. Smith the ILB is my question mark...I like him but ILB seem like bust city that high.

Guice is a first round talent and i don’t think it would be too big of a reach...I think the biggest hangup is the fact it’s the position of RB so high. Barkley is real deal though. If gruden and staff consider him to be a back who could take our run game to next level...I could get behind that.

I think Payne and James are both special athletes who can give their opponents fits. I don't think Fitzpatrick has a position in the pros. He's not a beast like James, anyway. I like Vea but I like Hankins and Payne better. Smith is aggressive and he's all over the field. He can really run and i like that.

Guice is a very good player. I wouldn't hate him at #13 but I'd prefer a defensive player. We have no chance to draft Barkley. He is the best player in the draft, IMO, and it ain't even close.

sdskinsfan2001
03-29-2018, 12:29 PM
Drafttek has us taking Denzel Ward. I'd take him. Also, interesting tidbit/confirmation about aiming for compensatory picks next year and a nice dig at Allen:

The Redskins continued with their generally quiet Free Agency strategy, making small signings of Pernell McPhee and Orlando Scandrick. Bruce Allen admitted at the owner's meetings that the team planned on signing players that were cut in order to receive compensation picks next year. So, for those of you calling for Brucey's head, sound like he's confident he's going to be around a while (UGH)! Regardless of the recent signings or my qualms with the front office, the Redskins will likely take BPA on defense in the First Round.

The team sits in a nice spot at 13, as four quarterbacks will likely come off the board before them, pushing top-ten talent down to them. If one of the quarterbacks is still around, or if a team like the Steelers or Saints want to develop the fifth QB taken, the Redskins could be looking at quite a haul of picks in a trade-down scenario with a QB-needy team. Here, the Redskins stay put and land the top CB in the draft in*tantalizing prospect*Denzel Ward. Ward isn't the biggest corner, and his weight (just 183) may scare some teams, but he has good length and instincts on the outside. If the Redskins are worried about his lack of bulk, they can move him into the slot as a rookie to avoid some of the contact he would be taking in the run game.

With Ohio State corners having great success transitioning to the NFL since Urban Meyer took over in Columbus (all 5 CBs drafted since his arrival are currently NFL starters), Denzel Ward could be a replacement-plus for what the team lost in Kendall Fuller earlier this offseason.*

KI Skins Fan
03-29-2018, 12:34 PM
It's the old sign a turd for a draft pick trick.

skinsfaninok
03-29-2018, 02:27 PM
Another guy that is under the radar and a good CB is

QUENTON MEEKS, CB, STANFORD
The big thing a team will get with Meeks is a very high football IQ. His father was an NFL defensive coach for over 20 years and has no doubt taught Meeks a thing or two. He also has ideal size for a NFL cornerback at 6-foot-1, 209-pounds with 31 3/4-inch arms. At the combine, Meeks showed explosive athleticism with jumps of 39-inches in the vertical and a 10-foot-8-inch broad jump. He then ran a 4.49 40-yard dash at his pro day. Meeks improved his overall grade (84.4 in 2017) and coverage grade (83.9 in 2017) each year at Stanford and he spent most of his time playing outside corner and that is where he fits in the NFL. Meeks’ consistent development along with his size and intelligence will make him attractive to teams during the draft.

This would be a nice 4th round addition if he is there

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