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sdskinsfan2001 12-11-2017, 04:00 PM Jay Gruden on Kirk Cousins, "He was not quite as accurate as he has been. Everyone who has seen Kirk play in his three years, knows he missed throws he normally makes."
It's comments like this that make u really wonder if Kirk has hit his ceiling and maybe we should look at a QB?
Cousins will get way more than his actually play actually warrants just the market says so. He stunk yesterday. I'd let him leave and use the money elsewhere. But most people won't agree with me.
metalskins 12-11-2017, 04:09 PM As much as Bruce rubs me the wrong way, aside from the mishandling of Cousins (which is huge but maybe a Snyder dictate), I think we have done okay with player acquisition, cap and contracts.
Snagged prime time FAs in Desean and Norman when other teams were in the hunt. Swearinger and Zach Brown have been good. I liked the Pryor signing at the time and give skins credit for only doing a 1 yr show me. I imagine a Vinny would have given him 5 years, 50 M.
Cap is in good shape. No big bad contracts on the books. Very little dead cap after this season.
How much credit/blame does he get vs Scot or Schaffer? Idk.
Contracts given out, I dont think is the problem. Of course, the mess up with Cousins is fireable by itself.
What huge contributors has Allen brought in that are six rounders, undrafted guys, free agents that nobody else wanted that turned into game changers? It's easy to talk about Pierre Garcon, DeSean Jackson, and Josh Norman. But he also lost Pierre Garcon and Desean Jackson. Probably won't keep Norman the way things are going. Alfred Morris was your six round guy, but he cut him loose. Frankly put, it's easy to find the high round guys, but Allen can't find quality depth for the team, and this has been apparent when much of your starters have been injured.
So no, I don't agree that Allen has done enough to stay. He needs to be shown the door first IMO!
skinsfaninok 12-11-2017, 04:12 PM Cousins will get way more than his actually play actually warrants just the market says so. He stunk yesterday. I'd let him leave and use the money elsewhere. But most people won't agree with me.
Hell I am hard to agree with that because I hate not having a QB
skinsfan69 12-11-2017, 04:17 PM Cousins will get way more than his actually play actually warrants just the market says so. He stunk yesterday. I'd let him leave and use the money elsewhere. But most people won't agree with me.
When I see Minnesota rolling w/ Keenum it makes me think that paying Cousins 27-30 million isn't worth it. But we have enough games of Cousins to know he's pretty good, not the case yesterday. He did stink. I'd prefer that we put the trans tag on him, set the market and make a decision. If he leaves then go w/ Colt and draft a guy. But that means you're setting your team back cause you're creating a need, you're drafting a QB high because you don't want to pay your current starter and that pick could be someone on defense. IDK, the decision on KC is a real tough one.
skinsfaninok 12-11-2017, 04:18 PM Kirk made a great play getting away from pressure and throwing a td but that INT was backup QB like and he does that too often
sdskinsfan2001 12-11-2017, 04:22 PM When I see Minnesota rolling w/ Keenum it makes me think that paying Cousins 27-30 million isn't worth it. But we have enough games of Cousins to know he's pretty good, not the case yesterday. He did stink. I'd prefer that we put the trans tag on him, set the market and make a decision. If he leaves then go w/ Colt and draft a guy. But that means you're setting your team back cause you're creating a need, you're drafting a QB high because you don't want to pay your current starter and that pick could be someone on defense. IDK, the decision on KC is a real tough one.
Yeah, transition tag is my preference too. Then I'd hope we didn't match the offer. Get extra picks and get a cheap QB for next 5 years while we build the rest of the team.
skinsfaninok 12-11-2017, 04:24 PM Yeah, transition tag is my preference too. Then I'd hope we didn't match the offer. Get extra picks and get a cheap QB for next 5 years while we build the rest of the team.
If we let Kirk go, we need to draft a guy 1st pick. If not then you are just getting worse
Buffalo Bob 12-11-2017, 04:26 PM When I see Minnesota rolling w/ Keenum it makes me think that paying Cousins 27-30 million isn't worth it. But we have enough games of Cousins to know he's pretty good, not the case yesterday. He did stink. I'd prefer that we put the trans tag on him, set the market and make a decision. If he leaves then go w/ Colt and draft a guy. But that means you're setting your team back cause you're creating a need, you're drafting a QB high because you don't want to pay your current starter and that pick could be someone on defense. IDK, the decision on KC is a real tough one.
I agree, all things considered Cousins is around a the #10 NFL QB, problem is someone will throw elite money at him because they are desperate. Overpaying for players can come back to bite you. When it comes to NFL free agents what they make is all about timing, and Kirk will hit the jackpot.
KI Skins Fan 12-11-2017, 04:29 PM Now that Jay Gruden essentially fired himself by quitting at the end of the Chargers game and then admitting it, there is no reason to hold onto Kirk Cousins. We should have a new HC soon and we probably won't be in a position to win for at least a couple more years.
Josh Norman should probably be traded to a contender for draft picks. It would be good for us and for him, too, under the circumstances.
sdskinsfan2001 12-11-2017, 04:37 PM If we let Kirk go, we need to draft a guy 1st pick. If not then you are just getting worse
I agree. I'd go for BPA at QB with 1st pick we have, and a RB in the 1st couple picks too. Then a whole lot of defense and a LG somewhere.
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