trump Inpeachment...............

Im guessing Iran will mine/block the Straits of Hormuz ... I dont know how that will really effect us vs just screw them and other countries more but Im not really educated on such matters.

Could Iran close the strait?

The presence of the U.S. Navy’s Bahrain-based Fifth Fleet has long cast doubt on Iran’s ability to close the waterway, analysts said. In addition, the U.S. in May announced it was sending an aircraft carrier group, bombers and a Patriot antimissile battery to counter what the Trump administration said were “clear indications” that Iran and its proxies were preparing to possibly attack U.S. forces in the region.

That might be a problem.


My suggestion for Iran's Heads of military, Terrorist Operations, or high ranking Government officials...learn to dig, cause them skies ours.

Could Iran close the strait?

The presence of the U.S. Navy’s Bahrain-based Fifth Fleet has long cast doubt on Iran’s ability to close the waterway, analysts said. In addition, the U.S. in May announced it was sending an aircraft carrier group, bombers and a Patriot antimissile battery to counter what the Trump administration said were “clear indications” that Iran and its proxies were preparing to possibly attack U.S. forces in the region.

That might be a problem.


My suggestion for Iran's Heads of military, Terrorist Operations, or high ranking Government officials...learn to dig, cause them skies ours.

When I read military articles on war simulations .... they always have Iran and China using mines and making everything a clusterfuck and stalemate.

Wouldnt closing the Strait and sending oil prices high help US and Russia? Iran has to do the shadow selling of oil so they would only marginally benefit.

Mining and blockading the Strait would not just bring about consequences from the United States but would surely evoke action by the UN Security Council. Russia would likely abstain or vote against, but the support would be there from Canada, Great Britain, France, and likely others in support of intervening. It would not be a US vs Iran confrontation, it would be a Western World vs Iran confrontation.

And besides, they're pussies, they won't do shit.

trump is getting his war like he wanted.

trump is getting his war like he wanted.

The problem for Iran is they are broke, they are dealing with protests all over the country (while killing their own people), and are spread thin. All they care about is disrupting the Middle East with multiple proxy wars in Yemen and Syria...militias in Iraq, operations against the Saudis, operations in the Persian Gulf, and fund terrorists activities against Israel thru Hezbollah and give military assistance to Lebanon.

They are a cancer and refuse to act as a normal nation. They’ve been poking the bear for about 6 months...fuck them.

The problem for Iran is they are broke, they are dealing with protests all over the country (while killing their own people), and are spread thin. All they care about is disrupting the Middle East with multiple proxy wars in Yemen and Syria...militias in Iraq, operations against the Saudis, operations in the Persian Gulf, and fund terrorists activities against Israel thru Hezbollah and give military assistance to Lebanon.

They are a cancer and refuse to act as a normal nation. They’ve been poking the bear for about 6 months...fuck them.

......and the fear is that the stupid shit trump pulled just might unite them .There are reasons that this move was and is being condemned around the World . trump became what he always wanted,........a tyrant.

Mining and blockading the Strait would not just bring about consequences from the United States but would surely evoke action by the UN Security Council. Russia would likely abstain or vote against, but the support would be there from Canada, Great Britain, France, and likely others in support of intervening. It would not be a US vs Iran confrontation, it would be a Western World vs Iran confrontation.

And besides, they're pussies, they won't do shit.

You mean the same people that took over a US embassy and held hostages and you don't think they won't do it? When a crazed animal has his back to the wall, expect bad things to happen.

The major allies have already said that the US is on their own when it comes to Iran. They know killing their #2 guy is probably considered an act of war by Iran, which will lead to more attacks that could very well escalate into a full blown war. This is them saying......we aren't helping you due to your short sighted arrogance and pulling out of the Iran treaty deal that we all agreed on.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/us-killing-of-irans-top-commander-rattles-european-allies/2020/01/03/0012822e-2e19-11ea-bffe-020c88b3f120_story.html


Also, this piece of news is a bit disturbing.

https://twitter.com/EvanMcMullin/status/1213645534063419393


The pentagon floating this option so that he would take the less risky options. WTF are those morons thinking?

I don't think we'll see the repercussions in visible ways that lead to escalations, i.e. blocking the Straits of Hormuz. I think the Iranians will escalate through methods like hacking our infrastructure, or disseminating false information online.

Or maybe they'll bomb a Trump tower. I guarantee that would push Trump to declare some form of war, maybe not boots on the ground but drone strikes in Iran or some other form of escalation.

There is no easy answer and in the end my greatest want is to leave the Middle East. It’s an evil place with evil people with one common social fabric throughout their countries which binds their constant state of violence. How can you use religious edicts in every act of violence and yet claim peaceful, loving people? The answer is your are not. Perception is reality.

The major problem is when we leave the vacuum is filled with folks who will insist to strike us abroad for no fucking reason...see 9/11 and the war on terror.

Let’s look at the facts and just recent acts of evil throughout that region:

1. Saudis kill and cut up a journalist in Turkey. Horrific, both Saudi and turkey are complicit
2. The formation of a country, ISIS, based on terror and genocide. Fucking genocide folks, ethic cleansing, which attracted support throughout Europe and some parts of Asia.
3. Turkey evolving dictatorship collect and killing political prisoners.
4. Iran killings of 1500 protesters which ayatollahs preached the Quran allowed them to do this.

Iran and Saudis commit terrible atrocities against their own people, beheading woman in the streets, hanging boys on cranes. Pakistan allows the stoning and cutting off of limbs.

Anybody attempting to humanize Soleimani...stop. Your ignorance to the situation adds nothing to the conversation. Research who he was. There is no question he was planning and strategizing the death of Americans and others in the region who were enemies of Iran...he’s never stopped doing that. He was involved in the killings of his own citizens...he was a monster and deserved to die. Nothing illegal about it and trump didn’t need anyone approval.

In the end, I’d like us to leave the region with the threat if attacked we will crater the country that harbors the perpetrators. Let them kill each like they have always done, they are savages.

Chico I think you put too much blame on the people of Iran, because much like America, the will of the politicians does not represent the will of the people.

What do you think the #1 thing that most lower-to-middle class people of America want? The #1 thing, more than any other thing? Is it to see the opposing side suffer (for me Republicans, for you Democrats)? No. They want the ability to work one job that makes enough money to provide for their family, and then hope to save up enough to retire comfortably someday. That's what I want, that's my American dream. My dairy farmer relatives (very pro-Trump), they want to work the dairy farm, and make enough money to celebrate the holidays, put food on the table, maybe take a vacation once a year, and save up enough to retire someday. I would love nothing more than to work for the county for 30 years, save up enough to buy a house somewhere in northern VA, raise a family and eventually retire. Do you really think the blue collar citizens of Iran would rather go to war with America than do exactly the same thing over there? Because I guarantee you, 10/10 times they would pick avoiding an unnecessary war with us.

The problem is their elected leaders don't have the same interests at heart. Their elected leaders probably hate us and would love nothing more than to see our world status knocked down a couple pegs. To the point where they might feel the need to escalate tensions with us because Trump got a hard-on for killing one of their high-ranking officials. I have no doubts Soleimani was someone who wanted to do bad things to Americans. Trump is probably justified for wanting him dead.

The problem is now that all of our allies are already publicly declaring they would not support us raising tensions any further. Now you two leaders of two countries that are about to get into a pissing match, with unnecessary loss of life on both sides an inevitability. Why do we need to battle Iran? They don't have the ability to match up with us militarily, but I guarantee you our online defenses are nowhere near good enough to stand up to any hacking. Have you learned nothing from Russia hacking us in 2016? It's 2020, wars are fight online now. Your data is the real asset. Imagine if they hacked our banks and locked us out for a week. Trump would survive, but you think your lenders would feel any sympathy for you if you didn't have any access to your funds to pay your bills?

There are other ways to hurt us than going toe to toe with the military.